• Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
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    My favorite part has always been how all those middle eastern guys had total fucking British white guy names like Peter, and Paul, Timothy, Thomas, Andrew, fucking Bartholomew ( fucking Bart‽ Really‽), James, Philip. If you’re stupid enough to go along with that horseshit, how in the fuck do you remember to breathe? Nobody that believes a word of the bible is qualified to operate metal eating utensils.

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      … are you being serious right now?

      The reason that those are British names are:

      1 Because of Christianity’s immense influence - native British names would be more like ‘Æthelwulf’ and ‘Ecgberht’

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      2 Because those names are heavily anglicized. ‘Peter’ coming from ‘Petros’, itself the Hellenized form of ‘Cephas’.

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        In case anyone wants them, here’s one of the translations (we’re changing alphabet, millenia, as well as language, so you’re not going to get any consistency)

        Jesus
        Hebrew - Yeshua
        Greek - Iesus

        Simon (called Peter)
        Hebrew - Shim’on, (surnamed Kefa/Kepha)
        Greek - Petros

        James, son of Zebedee
        Hebrew - Ya’akov Ben-Zavdai
        Greek - Iakōbos

        John, son of Zebedee
        Hebrew - Yochanan Ben-Zavdai
        Greek - Iōannēs

        Andrew
        Hebrew - Andreas
        Greek - Andreas

        Phillip
        Hebrew - Phillipos
        Greek - Philippos

        Bartholomew
        Hebrew - Bar-Talmai
        Greek - Bartholomaios

        Matthew
        Hebrew - Mattityahu
        Greek - Matthaios

        Thomas
        Hebrew - T’oma
        Greek - Thōmas

        James, son of Alphaeus
        Hebrew - Ya’akov Ben-Halfai
        Greek - Iakōbos tou Alphaiou

        Thaddeus
        Hebrew - Taddai
        Greek - Thaddaios

        Simon the Canaanite
        Hebrew - Shim’on the Zealot
        Greek - Simōn ho Kananitēs

        Judas Iscariot
        Hebrew - Y’hudah from K’riot
        Greek - Ioudas Iskariōtēs

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      Those aren’t their names in Hebrew. Those are their translated names. Like how Jesus isn’t called Jesus in Hebrew. He’s called Yeshua.

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        When you try to sell your horseshit story as the infallible word of god but you changed the names for audience palatability. Here’s your plastic spoon.

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          Their names aren’t infallible words of god. The infallible words are those spoken by Jesus and are the words in red (usually) in the bible.

          Also the infallibility is only about the bible being a source for spiritual guidance. It’s not considered infallible in things like science.

          As another atheist I’m embarrassed for you if you don’t know these things since you seem so adamantly against religion. Most atheists learn about religions so they don’t look like idiots when they talk to people of faith and refute their religion.

          “The Bible is infallible if and only if it makes no false or misleading statements on any matter of faith and practice.”

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            Respectfully, I must disagree. Even a social media equivalent of a medical waste dump like reddit serves some minimal kind of a function. Those comments have Twitter cringe written all over them, if not Truth Social.

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      The name was Petros, which is the Greek translation of the arameic word Cephas, meaning rock, or stone. Andrew was Andreas, Philip was Philipos, and so on. The translators of the Bible changed the names to sound more relatable. Your lack of the most fundamental knowledge of history puts you in the category you so flavorfully defined.

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        Sure, sure, Fish, translation. Translation requires interpretation and as you say the names were changed to appeal to the target demographics. That’s some infallible word of god alright. No better than King James’s further alterations of your favorite fairytale.