Senate Republicans cannot force the U.S. Postal Service to scrap thousands of electric vehicles and charging equipment in a massive tax and budget bill, the Senate parliamentarian said late on Sunday.

The U.S. Postal Service currently has 7,200 electric vehicles, made up of Ford e-Transit vehicles and specially built Next Generation Delivery Vehicles built by Oshkosh Defense.

USPS warned on June 13 that scrapping the electric vehicles would cost it $1.5 billion, including $1 billion to replace its current fleet of EVs and $500 million in EV infrastructure rendered useless and “seriously cripple our ability to replace an aging and obsolete delivery fleet.”

Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough, whose role is to ensure lawmakers follow proper legislative procedure, said a provision to force the sale could not be approved via a simple majority vote in the Republican-controlled chamber and will instead need a 60-vote supermajority, according to Democrats on the Senate Budget Committee.

  • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.social
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    Sure, why not take a 1.5 billion dollar hit just to own the libs. These people are not serious people, and we should stop treating them as if they are.

    With nonsense like this Dems should call a press conference outside and explain that Republican voters will be purchasing the USPS a new fleet, for no other reason than because their elected officials think they should.

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      They literally spent the last 10 fucking years getting these replacements ready to replace the aging fleet.

      Also, it’s not just a $1.5 billion dollar hit, there was and is a $6 billion dollar contract with Oshkosh Defense to build 165,000 of these, after going through a 6-year iteration process of bids and prototypes. This is throwing the baby out with the bathwater for no discernible reason and at an extremely high cost just to force USPS mail carrier to be locked into an ancient, aging fleet of vehicles. And I don’t think a defense giant like Oshkosh isn’t just going to sue the shit out of the government for damages for cancelling a contract if it hasn’t been fulfilled already.

      It sounds like just one more way to try to kill the USPS because if all their vehicles keep breaking down, they won’t be able to do their jobs.

      Fiscal conservatives, my ass. Most wasteful sonsabitches alive.

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        Oshkosh would probably win a large amount of the original contract price without even having to produce. So it’s a corporate handout at our expense.

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      I don’t think they’ll purchase a new fleet

      I see a cash bonus to leadership and then calling to shut down USPS.

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        I mean, considering the process for getting this fleet started in 2015, it would be 2035 before a new fleet would be rolling out… so yeah, they’ll just call to shut down USPS

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    The USPS literally just got these, and they’re replacing the way-past-end-of-life former fleet of USPS vehicles. These things are so recent that I have a post about them in my post history and I’ve only been here since October 2023, not even two full years.

    Getting rid of them is literally forcing USPS to use old, broken, difficult to maintain due to age vehicles. These replacements have been in the works for ten fucking years and there’s a $6 billion contract with Oshkosh Defense to build 165,000 of them.

    Further, the old vehicles are missing a huge boon to mail carriers: air conditioning.

    Like so many things, it seems like the cruelty is the point. It’s not just that they hate EVs, they hate mail carriers having modernized vehicles that are in working condition and climate controlled so they’re not sweating their asses off in the summer and freezing their asses off in the winter.

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        True, making them rely on vehicles that are failing will reduce the ability for the USPS to effectively do its job and give them another reason to say we need to privatize it.

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      Not to mention that EVs are the ideal vehicle for having to drive slowly and make a ton of stops. That shit is rough on an ICE and costs a fuck ton of fuel.

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    I’ll never understand how the EV thing became a political issue. I mean I understand how politicians can exploit it as one, but I don’t understand how voters came to see this as a political issue.

    These are American made EVs that will lower costs on maintenance and therefore on deliveries why the hell would anyone want to stop this?

    Even if you look at it from the angle of protecting the oil, natural gas and coal industry it doesn’t make sense because the energy used to charge cars is generated from those sources.

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      Or if you look at it from a jobs perspective, a lot of those jobs are still in the US (until you shut them down): do you really want to not only not have those jobs but also not have that industry?

      Or if you look at it as a gadget for the well off …. You could decide to just not spend your own money there

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        There’s really no point in opposing EVs except if you think it will win you elections for some reason because your voters think EVs are woke or some shit.

        I can understand opposition to EV mandates like in California because it is heavy handed market intervention. But this? This is like forcing federal agencies to continue doing things on pen and paper instead of computers.

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      Why spend the money to change, when they could just buy a congressman?

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        The problem is that they’ve started changing and to un-change it would waste a shitload of money

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    Yeah Republicans, you can’t put this provision through the budgetary process…

    You have to pass it using the “incredibly unhelpful and stupidly evil” lawmaking process. Then Democrats will have your back.