Aurora, IL

I am also told that at least one fire station had kept their flag lowered, and locked it in place, requiring the fire chief to come cut the lock. Also that there are people sneaking around lowering flags.

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    He (Kirk) is just not that important of an individual to merit this kind of national response. It’s not on the level of the September 11 attacks. It’s simply not. And, I would argue it further divides Americans than unites us.

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      He wasn’t a politician, head of state, particularly well known, or unanimously loved person. The only person he represented was himself. Objectively speaking, There’s no reason to lower the flag for him.

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        Honestly, lowering the flag for him cheapens lowering the flag altogether.

        It just doesn’t mean what it used to. This is when it changed.

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          It’s insulting. Regardless of your feelings on Kirk, this was hardly an attack on the whole of America. It was yet another school shooting. We have quite a few of those.

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            Arguably, a school shooting with only one victim is progress? I didn’t quickly find statistics on average deaths per incident, but did see that there is over 1 incident per week average since 2021.

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              Not every victim of a shooting dies from the injuries. I would argue one whole death is in the realm of shooting event deaths even with multiple victims.

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      Speaking of September 11, remember that Donald’s response to the attacks, on the day they happened, was to do an interview where he bragged about how they made a building of his the tallest in the neighborhood. And as always with him, it was a lie as there were several taller buildings nearby.

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      I say something about Charlie every time I see one. It’s become a game for my friend group.

      They aren’t kind things, but that’s only because he wasn’t a kind man.

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      I sorta love it. Everyone who treats him with empathy is basically shitting over everything he said and stood for. Its an awesome catch 22.

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        everything he said and stood for

        Charlie Kirk stood for nothing besides Charlie Kirk. Kirk was a lying grifter. He would have loved everyone treating him with empathy, because he didn’t ever actually care about empathy generally; he cared about hurting other people to his own benefit, and that meant eliminating empathy towards them.

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          Well I mean taking his words at face value. Either you should shrug your shoulders and say thats what he gets and his kids have learned something. That would be following the charlie kirk preaching. Or you say its horrible and express feelings he would deride for anyone else. So charlie kirk would not be empathetic to charlie kirk if he was not charlie kirk.

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            I know exactly what you mean. I just don’t want people to lose sight of the fact that Charlie Kirk had no actual principles in any capacity. He said and did whatever helped him in that specific moment.

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              Yeah I just bring it up because it makes me feel a bit better to see the lowered flags and such. Its like they are giving him the middle finger.

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      At first I thought you were referring to the Mayor. After reading the article, and re-reading your comment, I now get you were talking about Kirk. Suffice it to say, I was confused. 😅