Are Americans aware that in the rest of the world American cars are well known to be of very questionable quality and safety.
And size, and fuel efficiency, and weird measurements of parts/bolts.
I’m an american I want one of their EV’s. Sounds perfect for driving to work and back.
I’ll give Chinese EV sales another few years to tank. While they are cheap, they are…cheap and not built to last for typical 8-10 year cycles of legacy car makers. Most Chinese buyers get rid of them in 36 months, and they have zero resale value.
But they are only cheap because they are being dumped into Europe below cost. No way is BYD or Geely sustainable with $30B in hidden debt.
10 years from now, these TEMU cars could have a following for ultra cheap transport, assuming they can keep running.
And don’t flame me with YouTube car reviews, those clowns cheerlead everything and NEVER talk about long term reliability.
Isn’t europe not known for making cars?
Yes, but that still doesn’t change the fact that Europeans would rather buy a Chinese car than a US one.
That they mainly buy European cars doesn’t matter.
In Switzerland I’ve seen lately quite a lot of KIA (those were not present a few years ago) and lots of new Peugeots. Less and less Teslas and Fords. What I’ve seen a lot is pick up trucks with company logos (quite a few aholes do license these trucks on their company because of taxes. It’s often funny becauae the standard small trucks are usually way more usefull than a pick-up truck).
I would buy neither.
I’m looking to replace my Tesla soon. Not because it’s a bad car but because of the fascism. It’ll likely be a German car, though, because my wife wants this particular model. But otherwise I’d also look at some Chinese ones. I guess the fascism is less obvious with those.
I’ve really enjoyed the Volkswagen ID.4 from my personal experience. I’ve heard that the ID.5 and ID.7 are pretty good as well. I love the design of the ID.Buzz but I cannot really speak for how well it drives and how practical it is.
You thinking of a German BMW i series? They got some decent electric ones.
Another one would be the Hyundai, that’s South Korean. While not European, it’s an ally and South Korea actually is combatting the fascist terrorists. I’d say that they deserve a prize for that.
(Swedish) Volvo Polestar is also pretty good, seen it a lot here. (That is a bandwagon fallacy right there from me, but nonetheless). It resembles Tesla but is iirc not owned by a fascist.
Edit: another would be Nissan, they got the Leaf. Pretty good too.
Wifey wants a Merc.
Used one, I hope. From what I’ve seen/heard, the new ones are overpriced and kinda crap.
A Mercedes-Benz?
Except for the SUV (too impractical), I suppose that that works. A hatchback is handiest.
But really, I’d recommend just getting a rain jacket and an e-bike. They also come in transport versions which can transport kids and groceries along. Much cheaper and just as comfy.
Isn’t Polestar a joint venture with a Chinese company?
the 2 was designed and built in sweden. the models after were designed in sweden, built in china.
44% owned by PSD Investment from the Chinese Li Shufu, and 22% by Geely Holding, again owned by Li Shufu. The other 16% is Volvo and 18% by public shareholders.
So yes, you’re right. It’s dominated by China, but it’s indeed a joint venture.
Except the 16% that is Volvo is actually Volvo Cars, which is also 80% Geely.
Europeans would be buying european cars right now if the european car companies had not started jerking eachothers dicks off in the 2000s
As a European, I can assure you I’ve seen a growing amount of people buy those European cars. Seeing a lot fewer Teslas now and more BMWs, Volvos, Renaults, and so on.
I’m a truck driver in the Netherlands and as far as I can tell there is only one US brand on the road left with recent cars and that is ford. They make models that they only sell here in Europe and they even make a new cabover semi truck that I see more and more.
in NA, Ford only sells trucks and one car for retiring Boomers.
I don’t see Fords that often, they actually seem to be getting fewer overall.
Peugeots, Renaults, BMWs, Mercedes, Volvos, Audis from European factories, on the other hand… seeing those a lot.
And also a lot more bicyclists and ebikes. Which helps the car drivers too, cause then roads are calmer, meaning fewer traffic jams. That’s why more bicycle infrastructure and protections for bicyclists, would be good.
I agree, but it’s the only US brand that I do see on the road with recent models and tesla ofcourse. I see more and more unknown Chinese brands as well.
Seems to be totally self inflicted tbh, they’ve discontinued the Fiesta and Mondeo in recent years, Focus goes at the end of this year and replaced them with an SUV/Crossover lineup named after old models that in no way reflect the old models they’re named after. (Puma has become Fiesta crossover, don’t even start me on the Capri)
They always used to punch above their weight in terms of value, were reasonably cheap to maintain and pretty solid cars. If there was a Mondeo estate in the lineup I’d literally go buy one this weekend.
I had a ford focus 2001 IIRC, it was like ford fuck me.
Until early this year, this would have been unthinkable for me.
Today, I agree with that statement.
Yeah. Trump made the US look like an enemy to Europe.
Not just look made and it’s not just trump it’s also 77m us citizens.
The only American car I ever considered I would like to buy as a daily driver was a Tesla, and that was way long ago, when Elon seemed a good guy, way before he called the rescuers of those trapped kids pedo.
If I had the money and a real necessity to replace my car, I would buy a BYD almost 98% sure.
He never was a good guy though, he always was an Americaboo (he was born in South Africa). I remember from those earlier years that he genuinely believed the US was the best country. And considering that his parents contributed to apartheid directly… it’s not hard to see why they moved to the US; so they could continue harassing minorities. (Except for Russian ones).
Europeans Would Rather Buy Chinese Cars Than American Ones
My spontaneous reaction: yes of course, everybody.
On the other hand, it could be a question of price. If the American ones cost only 5-10% of the Chinese…
I’d rather bicycle than buy a car; and I’d rather buy a European/EU ally car than a Chinese one; and I’d much rather buy a Chinese car than an American one. Fuck Trump.
A bike is way cheaper. And with an electric one, if you have a decent rain jacket, most commuters would be well suited. They can go 25 km/hr. Some are speed pedelecs for which you need a licence, but they can go 45 km/hr.
For comparison, the average commute is about 20 km. You’d spend much less in costs, it’s healthier, and you still can transport stuff with comfort.
Transport e-bikes also exist, those can carry bigger burdens. There are also iirc electric bikes with AC, like the Pod bike, but those are rare.
Almost all our cars and all our major manufacturers are awful, any American that knows anything about cars knows this.
Just overpriced, shittily constructed, designed to fail right after the warranty expires fucking ‘luxury’ garbage… Ford broke GM’s previous all time record for how many recalls they’ve had to issue this year…
… and that was in July, with half the year to still go.
American manufacturing is fucking joke.
(Well, outside of firearms, we’re still fairly good at that, what a surprise.)
I also would rather buy a Chinese car.
I guess Trump is actively trying to scare off Hyundai… hopefully Toyota and Honda stick around… also pre-emptive RIP to Nissan.
Almost all our cars and all our major manufacturers are awful, any American that knows anything about cars knows this.
You’re on “buy european”, so when you say “our” do you mean Europe or…?
Sorry, I mean American.
I am an American agreeing with ya’ll that our American cars are ridiculous.
… I didn’t even mention that a whole bunch of our cars are also gigantic and can likely barely fit on or navigate most older, more dense, less car-centric Euro cities and their road systems.
I wouldn’t buy an American car because I don’t want to support the current regime (and mileage).
But having said that, those minivans look like they would be awesome for family road trips. I hate trucks but wouldn’t mind seeing more minivans in Europe. I saw a review of a minivans that came with a vacuum cleaner build into to car (just pull out the hose).
“American manufacturing is a joke”
Praises Honda
Honda builds cars in the US.
but they are engineered in Japan, with engineers not trained at colleges with great sports teams. Any idiot can assemble a modern car.
Funny how things only seem to come out built well when Americans aren’t the ones in charge.
Aldi is the best bang for your buck supermarket in the US right now. So I guess I agree.
As an American I would never buy an American vehicle. Especially not Tesla
Seriously, one of my family members bought a Chevy and I don’t think I would wish that on anyone. Constant failures and problems I’ve never seen a car that shitty before in my life.
and then one day, for no reason at all people didn’t buy american products
