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While The title of the video is absolutely one of sensationalism, It’s not out of the question as two more strikes could indeed delete a channel…
He should be on PeerTube, anyways.
Waaaay less money to be made there. Not saying he’s exclusively doing this for the money like the other reply, but we’re not talking about some solo guy making videos in his free time for fun. The man is running a business, needs money to make this videos happen, and to my knowledge this is his job.
Can someone explain me why creators cant do both? Reupload a mirror on peertube.
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
That’s definitely an option. It would be a good idea for him to do that, I think. But my main point is that losing YouTube would be devastating for GN regardless of whether or not they’re on peertube, and moving entirely to peertube isn’t really feasible for them
I do not understand why creators feel the need to be exclusively on one platform. Simply crosspost the videos.
$$$ that’s why. YouTube gives the greatest return. If they post to multiple platforms, not only is it more work, but they then also subtract from the number of views they get on YouTube. It’s all about the $$$.
In their documentary GamersNexus stated that they would air it without advertisements if a certain treshold of funding was reached. I imagine Patreon, their store and other sources make GamersNexus more money than Youtube advertisement. And it is certainly not their only source.
Nah. He’d be better off on floatplane. I wonder why he isn’t… 🤔
That would defeat the entire purpose of sensationalist headlines and blowing up a Google search as a “deep investigation” which is this channel’s main source of attention.
They want the clicks on YouTube. Moving to PeerTube would be great if they just wanted the information to be out there, but that’s not their primary concern.
Source of attention? By flying to another country and getting access to areas people never even knew? Lol wtf are you on about?
Lemmy simps really hard for gamers nexus, even though they’re just a drama channel at this point.
I don’t think they’re sensationalist, they just don’t sugarcoat the industry bullshit. And believe it or not, they need to make money from this, it doesn’t pay itself. It’s like saying newspapers should be free, or else informing the people isn’t their primary concern.
“A farmer wants the money. Giving the good away for free would be great if they just wanted to feed people, but that’s not their primary concern.” Can even play that game for nurses etc
they just don’t sugarcoat
To the contrary, they massively inflate whatever they can find that will gather clicks.
Examples?
Stop building houses on the king’s land.
Bloomberg’s lawyer to Steve: how DARE you contact us without going through another lawyer
I love that he responded to their takedown request by releasing an entire video about Bloomberg and their shitfuckery.
How is his channel going to be deleted? They appealed the take down and YouTube will reinstate the video in a matter of 10 days if Bloomberg failed to produce proof that he used their copy right shit. I’m actually genuinely asking because I watched the whole video and Steve didn’t say anything about their channel being deleted.
Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it’s a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.
Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can’t defend yourself.
The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.
But it’s only one of 3 strikes.
And I am sure it can even expire at some point.
So what’s the matter?Since YouTube also count frivolous claims, you can get 3 strikes in no time.
How many take down claims have been put against them already? How many did they successfully resolve?
IDK, and if you don’t either, you are making an argument from ignorance.But as I mentioned, there is basically no defense against 3 frivolous strikes. It will close the channel, no matter how much the channel can prove it’s innocence.
Unless of course it’s a mega corp, they have different rules, because they are big and google makes money from them, and they have big lawyer teams.
3 dmca/copyright strikes on a channel and yt deletes you. It was mentioned near the beginning of the video.
Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about “in general”?
Why is this being downvoted? I’m genuinely asking questions 😂.
It’s clickbait.
I would assume its in reference to the section of the video quoting YouTube’s policies that channels can be removed after 3 copyright strikes. Bloomberg has 10 days to appeal to YouTube and keep the strike active
Right, but Bloomberg only did it once. Unless Steve is talking “in general”.
How is his channel going to be deleted?
It’s clickbait.
It’s clickbait.
That is an absolute bullshit ignorant knee jerk claim.
As I wrote in a previous response:
Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it’s a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can’t defend yourself.
The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.
I sympathize with Steve and how he is, and how he goes about explaining things. And the style of making sharp points.
But he’s also flawed, and knows how to play the content game. This is nearly just clickbait. And they flew across the country in service of his style of rhetoric.
I honestly wish more people with audiences were just as pedantic and critical as he is. But he also has his own set of biases in the computer landscape. He is still a Gamer after all.
I don’t think it’s clickbait at all. He’s in real danger of being silenced. With this latest project he reached into a massive wasp nest for sure, but I admire his efforts to speak up in cases like this.
And I haven’t found any bias in his content in general. He’s pretty transparent about his methodologies.
He has a huge bias against Macs. I suspect you won’t be receptive to that idea.
There’s a general sense of consoles and other devices being beneath the channel. Little comments often surface during news segments that touch on them. It’s not that they don’t acknowledge them.
And with how shitty Microsoft is, you’d think they would be more even handed about the whole thing.
But this is filtered though my sensitive ears because I came up with Mac gaming and console gaming, and I’m sensitive to when people are dismissive of other options. The same thing use to happen to Linux until the Steam Deck and associated software support from valve forced people out of treating all Linux gaming as an afterthought.
Title is clickbait, because a sentence like that without context is alarmist.
It’s not wrong, it’s mentioned and explained in the video, byt it’s still clickbait.
The story here is Bloomberg fuckery and the copyright strike, not the imminent channel deletion.
without context? context is in the video. or do you want titles that span 4 lines with 3 sentences?
Why is it a big deal? Don’t you agree with Linus that clickbait is just part of the game, and we should accept the sensational thumbnails and titles? Hate the game, not the player and all that?
No, just be honest. “Bloomberg fradulent copyright strike on our black market documentary”.
Still one sentence.
I use a Firefox extension called Dearrow because of this understandable, but unfortunate trend.
I agree with you.
Time to move to nebula? :)
How about Floatplane /s
Or better yet PeerTube.
These days I am looking at their video on their channel on Rumble while working. I think they are achieving financial and political pressure in the most wholesome way possible.
That said, I don’t think I am going to click on anything else on Rumble, as it is all Tucker Calson, bitcoin and other shit like that. I don’t see any future in it; it has achieved Dailymotion status in no time.
I don’t know if I’m stupid or not but I tried going to peertube and I couldn’t for the life of my understand what I was looking at. It just seemed like a vague soup of instances with no continuity or ability to know what I was looking at. Maybe I accessed it wrong but I didn’t fully get it.
Every substantial youtube channel should be hosting and backing up to a self-hosted, owned, peertube.
With many, many servers, otherwise things would go down fast on each new video release. And each server having a fuckton of bandwidth, too. That’s not free.
its fine if its first and foremost a backup, and not a public platform. then you don’t need the bandwidth. then they can open it up when google deleted their channel. they still need to figure out the capacity issues, but at least the content was not lost.
its fine if its first and foremost a backup, and not a public platform. then you don’t need the bandwidth. then they can open it up when google deleted their channel. they still need to figure out the capacity issues, but at least the content was not lost.
Issue is such channels need giant amounts of storage for this.
Linus tech Tips showed his multiple upgrades over the years it’s quite crazy what they need on storage space.
As someone who worked for years in video transcoding, archiving, streaming, and content management in general: there are absolutely ways to do this efficiently in a self hosted context. You could absolutely build a system that fits your bespoke needs in all of these categories.
Not just storage, but bandwidth. Streaming one video to potentially thousands of people at once can get very expensive.
LTT storage is excessive. He stores all his footage in full quality instead of just storing his final edited videos in a compressed format. Plus if you’re a youtuber with millions of subscribers you can afford to pay for a few TB of storage to hold and serve your videos. Its not that expensive.
He stores all his footage in full quality instead of just storing his final edited videos in a compressed format.
That’s the right way to do it, you want to avoid generation loss as much as possible.
Not after you lose your channel and all your income. PeerTube doesn’t appeal to people who make a living at this because there’s no revenue stream.
there is revenue stream. liberapay is integrated, get your viewers to subscribe through there. they can donate any amount, literally.
then its also common that content creators cooperate with companies, mostly tech companies, to advertise their products. that can still be done on peertube. what they can’t anymore is to show generic ads for everyone every few minutes.
Sometimes it ain’t about the revenue stream.
It is if you are trying to fulfil the requirements from 2 comments above.
Except for these people, it almost definitely is. They have staff, an office, inventory to manage, etc. Most YouTubers nowadays aren’t just operating on their own, and thus have financial expenses outside of just paying themselves for their own labor, that can’t just keep going if their revenue stream goes down, or even just takes a large enough cut.
It’s unfortunate, but that’s just how a lot of the content creation industry works right now, especially on YouTube.
GN is literally a sizable business, it absolutely is.
What do you want people to buy food with. Welfare checks lol? Where would they get money to buy stuff for testing. They have an acoustic chamber that’s fairly expensive.
Revenue and professional channels are intimately linked and removing the revenue stream would open them up to bought reviews like heiLTT.
Agreed. For archival, honestly 720p is good enough. Hockey highlights are uploaded in 720p, but 60 fps for the high motion - for GN or any other info based talking head type stuff, 30 fps will look fine.
Hosting a peertube instance would be almost nothing I comparison to this. It’d just be a duplicate of all uploaded videos at worst, which he’s storing many times that amount of raw footage anyway. They probably wouldn’t even notice the overhead.
Nebula is a shithole, just have a glance at their privacy policy.
Floatplane would be ideal but I think he burned that bridge.
PeerTube is probably his best bet.
I don’t want to see his channel deleted but I’m also VERY interested in what would take place in the aftermath…
Nebula is a shithole, just have a glance at their privacy policy.
It looks pretty run of the mill to me?
Because youtube was so much better in that regard?
Might sell your data in the future is a hell of a lot better than currently selling the shit out of your data. Nebula is a side grade in terms of privacy, but an upgrade in terms of creators not getting their shit deleted for no good reason.
I’m so fucking sick and tired of everyone saying “WELL EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING IT TOO!” as if that’s any sort of defense. The world is fucked. You do you but I’m gonna do whatever I can not to contribute to it.
In a rising tide of enshittification we all have to find higher, cleaner ground. Standing on a hill that seems to be above the shit for awhile is an ok strategy even if that hill is owned by someone else and might sink into the shit eventually. It’s working for now and it’s better than being in the shit. Not everyone can build their own hill, at least not right away.
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https://tosdr.org/en/service/2459
but seems it isn’t completed yet
Just checked the contributor’s page, the crawled privacy policy being referenced is stated to be 4 months out of date, but the policy on Nebula’s website hasn’t been changed since Aug 31 2023, so I think TOSDR might be a little bugged, and just doesn’t have all the current policy’s points available for contributors to tag. The current privacy policy is much more lengthy to cover local state privacy regulations, the scope of what they now offer, etc.
Still, it’s all pretty boilerplate, and nothing about it is really out of the ordinary or super harmful. Extremely basic attribution might be used if you click onto Nebula from an ad, and they might share a non-identifying hashed ID with that company. They’ll collect aggregate statistics to determine the impact of marketing campaigns, they sometimes email you, they collect data on your device that most webservers would by default in logs. All very standard.
If they update any part of the policy about how they collect/use/share your data, they’ll notify you,
They even explicitly say to not provide them with info on your race/politics/religion/health/biometrics/genetics/criminality or union membership. You are given an explicit right to delete your account regardless of local privacy laws, and they give you a single email to contact specifically regarding any requests related to the privacy policy.
None of this is crazy, and I have no clue why artyom would call it a “shithole” based on that.
I feel like this site needs more attention.
Maybe it not being in legalese just means more people understand it? This is a pretty acceptable privacy policy relative to most of the other ones you will have already agreed to in your life.
Yes, that’s the problem.
I guess perspective here depends on your anchoring point. I’m anchoring mostly on the existing platform (YouTube), and Nebula’s policy here looks better (subjectively much better) than what runs as normal in big tech. If your anchor is your local PeerTube instance with a privacy policy that wasn’t written by lawyers, I can see how you’d not be a fan.
However beyond being in legalese I’m not sure what part of it you find so bad as to describe it as a shithole. Even compared to e.g., lemmy.world’s privacy policy Nebula’s looks “good enough” to me. They collect slightly more device information than I wish they did and are more open to having/using advertising partners than I had expected (from what I know of the service as someone who has never actually used it) but that’s like… pretty tame compared what most of the big platforms have.
I don’t have an “anchor point” other than what’s what’s fair and respectful of your customers. “We’re going to collect as much data about you as we can to sell to advertisers” is neither.
Elaborate? Genuinely asking… what is your key takeaways for “it’s a shit hole”?
Pretty much “we collect as much data as we can and sell it to data brokers/advertising companies to be used to target you for advertising.”
I would like to see more content relating to the last interview in the video with Mr. Pigeon. Truly think he has great arguments that need further airtime
No! I’m sick of these influencers giving a platform to fascist birds. Enough is enough! #cancelmrpigeon
They can platform whoever the hell they damn want! #cancelcancelculture #cancelthewokemob
So controversial, yet so brave
Yeah I was about 1.5 hours in.
I don’t watch his channel, but from here it seems like he is in a “rage” spiral. Like being a bit unpleasant and when people respond to that he doubles down going fro just a bit to kind of an ass
I don’t watch his channel
You could have stopped your comment right there, because what followed was nothing of value.
I apologize. I thought you were someone that completely blew up when they read my comment. You didn’t insult me
No necessarily. “I don’t watch his channel bit I whenever I hear about him he is in some sort of drama” is 100% true. I just wanted to know if I was wrong or not. The down votes tell me I’m wrong and I’m OK with that. But you started insulting me for no reason
I don’t think “don’t chime in if you don’t actually know, or just ask instead of make a baseless assertion”, is “insulting”. If anything it’s just bluntly pushing for better nettiquette, and coming out swinging in the manner your post did does no favors.
Just take time before posting to ask yourself “is this asking a question, or am I making an assertion I’ll excuse as being a question later instead of just asking?” Your post was very much the latter. I don’t think you intended it, but it’s a byproduct of conditioning short-length social media engagement has kind of created in many of us overtime. It’s healthy to undo that.
I apologize. I thought you were someone that completely blew up when they read my comment.
Yeah it’s strange why more people don’t just give into corporate greed and losing ownership of their channels when they discuss potential (obvious) corruption.
Upsetting that they would react in a negative way!
Ive also only seen a few videos of his over the last few years but it seems like he’s recently had some wildly successful videos based off exposing corruption in the PC/tech industry and has morphed his channel from tech reviews to some sort of investigative journalism chasing that high he got from said viral videos.
He goes into detail on some of the videos, but to summarize the “controversial” videos due less well when it comes to recouping the money it takes to film them (if at all). They (often):
- have to account for more travel expenses to interview people
- can’t be sponsored since no one wants to sign up for those kinds of pieces and depend on ad revenue alone
- can include additional legal costs (have lawyers review things, etc. )
- for things that are time sensitive, they can also mess with the work life balance of the team and the regularly scheduled content they’ve been working on
- stress from dealing with mega corps with the money to ruin you as a side quest
Is that supposed to be a abd thing?
No, i don’t really have an opinion either way.
Uh. Good for him
The only high he’s chasing is a money one. Controversy brings clicks.
Chasing the high? You think that is why he does that? Sit down and think …THINK what you just said … according to you his motivation is some junky high chase?
At the end of the day he’s running a business and has had lots of financial success with this type of “product,” so it makes sense to focus your efforts on said product going forward.
I like that he’s exposing corruption, but question his motivations and use of clickbait. I’m not really passing judgement on him either way and things don’t always have to be black and white, “good” or “bad.”
Do you have something to add? Asking if my stated opinion is “what I think” in three different ways isn’t really contributing much to the conversation.
No offense, but Questioning the use of clickbait on youtube is such an idiotic take, clickbait thumbnails and titles make double percentage difference in terms of viewership and thus income for the video. These people employ others, not using clickbait would be a disservice to the employees who depend on this job for their livelihood as a business owner you have a fiduciary duty to the best you can and take care of your employees.
How is that an idiotic take? I watch a ton of YouTube and none of the channels I regularly watch rely on clickbait to push their videos. You could use this same argument to justify it anywhere including ‘regular’ journalism meaning there is no example where clickbait is unacceptable using this logic.
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What the hell happened? .did my comment hurt you or some one you love?
I don’t care about him enough to go see if all the drama is justified, so I’m not going to. I just said what I thought, and without pretending to know it all.
If only those who are up to date in his drama are allowed to say anything, then you only hear the crybaby fanboys, because nobody else cares
While I appreciate a lot of the stuff that Gamers Nexus does, Steve is so, so insufferable.
Oh no, no more YouTube tech drama
It’s not YouTube drama, it’s international trade drama.
It’s a singular circle
On one hand, yes. Totally. Just like the Roblox vigilante stuff and the SKG stuff, etc.
But this video and those examples are connected to larger systemic issues in the world and in the tech industry. It’s not just YouTuber beefs or relationship drama.
Totally agree. This is corpo, government doing stuff because they can, disregarding law they would have you uphold because you’re beneath them.
Corruption. Plain and simple.
