Let them scrape. AI as it currently is, is still autocomplete with extra steps, and still prone to hallucination. As it is it will be usable to make cheap, passable content, but not hit those moments of inspiration of human art (yet – there are real AI groups looking to make AGI)
It is a bubble which will pop and AI will be seen as a tool (a resource-costly tool) that requires its own set of experts independent from the experts that use ACAD or write editorial copy or do investigative work. Id est, it’s not the replacement of employees that boards of directors want it to be.
And AGI is centuries from being efficient enough that you can make Rosie the Robot who cleans your house and makes a good upside-down pineapple cake.
What is making you stink discord isn’t also selling all its data to AI companies?
Self hosting is the way.
Doesn’t really solve the AI scraping or the silo problem and as Code erg found out recently, solving the AI scraping DDOS is never ending
What prevents Discord from selling the chat logs to AI companies?
Discord’s complete lack of indexing. Although it’s definitely not impossible to scrape data from Discord it would take more resources than say reddit.
If an AI company pays Discord they won’t scrape but get the data directly.
But they Index everything. Just request your data and you’ll get a neat package of all your messages with timestamps and all.
They store your data, they don’t correlate your data.
So what? You can still sell it to AI companies without assigning an user to each message. They don’t care about who wrote it when stealing the content.
I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system…
Because UI/UX beats any abstract things like privacy & data ownership.
To build up a close (the two definitions of “close”) community. To speak freely (even if you have to respect the TnCs of Discord + community guidelines.)
Go for the voicechats, stay for the poorly organized forum megathread experience
Is that what we’re up against? I thought every time I voice my mind on forums it gets upvoted or downvoted or ignored, but always ultimately ignored 🤷🏼♀️.
The forum I call home tolerates a lot of hate speech.
I think I’m out, but it’s less about the AI scraping and more about moderation.
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Lol I knew this one year ago
Its been shit since covid. Everyone constantly online, and really ramping up the stupid as fuck culture wars. “Back in my day” I could log into a chat room, have some fun conversations, and then log off without getting pissed off or pissed on. I could look at movie news, and not be swapped by performative hate or praise for whatever fucking movie is or isnt “woke”.
Everywhere you go, you see “Be civil” or “Be respectful”. But all that really means is, dont question out echo chamber. And if you do, well, turns out not being civil towards you doesnt count.
Left and right doesnt matter. Its all hate and performative praise as far as the eye can see.
You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.
Abolish intellectual property
What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they’re all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it’ll just be a jumbled useless mess!
Then search engines wouldn’t find anything from the forum either.
True… But what if the forum had its own search engine that could ignore the anti-scraping stuff? The issue would be making a good search engine lol
Got a lot “knowledge” AI companies are after?
Oh my dude, that second ship sailed decades ago.
Time was there was really just one place (maybe two) where you could find an answer to a question. (Usenet mostly.)
Now there’s easily two dozen at least, from SO/SE, Quora, Yahoo Answers, all the way to Reddit subs…
The balkanization of information. It screwed the knowledge of the public, but it made a few people super rich. Whee
Yeah but those places were still publicly indexed, discord is private
Porque no los dos?
Discord is targeting an IPO by end of year. I doubt the AI bubble bursts by then.
Anyone wanna bet against their valuation being based on AI training data value?
