• efrique@lemm.ee
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    I’m fine with this. “We can’t succeed without breaking the law” isn’t much of an argument.

    Do I think the current copyright laws around the world are fine? No, far from it.

    But why do they merit an exception to the rules that will make them billions, but the rest of us can be prosecuted in severe and dramatic fashion for much less. Try letting the RIAA know you have a song you’ve downloaded on your PC that you didn’t pay for - tell them it’s for “research and training purposes”, just like AI uses stuff it didn’t pay for - and see what I mean by severe and dramatic.

    It should not be one rule for the rich guys to get even richer and the rest of us can eat dirt.

    Figure out how to fix the laws in a way that they’re fair for everyone, including figuring out a way to compensate the people whose IP you’ve been stealing.

    Until then, deal with the same legal landscape as everyone else. Boo hoo

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    That’s a good litmus test. If asking/paying artists to train your AI destroys your business model, maybe you’re the arsehole. ;)

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      Not only that, but their business model doesn’t hold up if they were required to provide their model weights for free because the material that went into it was “free”.

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            I hate zuckerburg as much as anyone, but I find his face surprisingly low on the punchability index. Musk and Bezos at 1 and 2 for me.

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              Zuck is, however, at the top of the list for lizard person index.

              Bezos has such a shit-eating grin. Really makes him infinitely more punchable

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                oh zuck is such a lizard-person.

                Bezos’ entire personality gets me fuming; I would want to punch him even if he weren’t a billionaire. (Remember that time he talked over William Shatner touchdown?)

                Musk honestly looks ok to me personally, I guess the gender-affirming surgeries went well. But the thought of what’s going on behind his eyes makes me want to punch him in the face real bad.

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    Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest!

    What is the charge, officer? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?

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    I hope generative AI obliterates copyright. I hope that its destruction is so thorough that we either forget it ever existed or we talk about it in disgust as something that only existed in stupider times.

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      Thing is that copywrite did serve a purpose and was for like 20 years before disney got it extended to the nth degree. The idea was the authors had a chance to make money but were expected to be prolific enough to have more writings by the time 20 years was over. I would like to see with patents that once you get one you have a limited time to go to market. Maybe 10 years and if you product is ever not available for purchase (at a cost equivalent to the average cost accounted for inflation or something) you lose the patent so others can produce it. So like stop making an attachment for a product and now anyone can.

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        The problem with these systems is that the more they are bureaucratized and legalized, the more publishing houses and attorney’s offices will ultimately dictate the flow of lending and revenue. Ideally, copywrite is as straighforward as submitting a copy of your book to the Library of Congress and getting a big “Don’t plagiarize this” stamp on it, such that works can’t be lifted straight from one author by another. But because there’s all sorts of shades of gray - were Dan Brown and JK Rowling ripping off the core conceits of their works, or were religious murder thrillers and YA wizard high school books simply done to death by the time they went mainstream? - a lot of what constitutes plagarism really boils down to whether or not you can afford extensive litigation.

        And that’s before you get into the industrialization of ghostwriters that end up supporting “prolific” writers like Danielle Steele or Brian Sanderson or R.L. Stein. There’s no real legal protection for staff writers, editors, and the like. The closest we’ve got is the WGA, and that’s more exclusive to Hollywood.

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      Oh, so now you’re just going to surrender our precious natural resources to the Imperialist Chinese?!

      Guys, I think we’ve got a Wumao over here. Someone get what’s left of the FBI to arrest him and show his ass the fucking door.