| Country | Statements of support | Threshold | Percentage | Signatures required |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Austria | 10162 | 13395 | 75.86% | 3233 |
| Belgium | 13911 | 14805 | 93.96% | 894 |
| Bulgaria | 4597 | 11985 | 38.36% | 7388 |
| Croatia | 4163 | 8460 | 49.21% | 4297 |
| Cyprus | 565 | 4230 | 13.36% | 3665 |
| Czechia | 7421 | 14805 | 50.12% | 7384 |
| Denmark | 12032 | 9870 | 121.90% | 0 |
| Estonia | 3035 | 4935 | 61.50% | 1900 |
| Finland | 15319 | 9870 | 155.21% | 0 |
| France | 49153 | 55695 | 88.25% | 6542 |
| Germany | 98063 | 67680 | 144.89% | 0 |
| Greece | 5018 | 14805 | 33.89% | 9787 |
| Hungary | 9902 | 14805 | 66.88% | 4903 |
| Ireland | 10353 | 9165 | 112.96% | 0 |
| Italy | 24712 | 53580 | 46.12% | 28868 |
| Latvia | 2679 | 5640 | 47.50% | 2961 |
| Lithuania | 5123 | 7755 | 66.06% | 2632 |
| Luxembourg | 946 | 4230 | 22.36% | 3284 |
| Malta | 533 | 4230 | 12.60% | 3697 |
| Netherlands | 26374 | 20445 | 129.00% | 0 |
| Poland | 53599 | 36660 | 146.21% | 0 |
| Portugal | 8402 | 14805 | 56.75% | 6403 |
| Romania | 12377 | 23265 | 53.20% | 10888 |
| Slovakia | 4987 | 9870 | 50.53% | 4883 |
| Slovenia | 2473 | 5640 | 43.85% | 3167 |
| Spain | 36391 | 41595 | 87.49% | 5204 |
| Sweden | 19849 | 14805 | 134.07% | 0 |
Just under 3000-4000 people are required per country in Lithuania, Latvia, Malta and Luxembourg. Come on now… that’s a small town and in some places even just a village. Are there really that few gamers in those countries?
Think about how many people you know on your life that are gamers. Then also think about the gamers that are in the know about shit like this. It’ll be pretty slim unless you’re terminally online.
All my gamer friends know about this, because I told them. I’ve told them and I know at least 3 of them that signed.
Those thresholds are irrelevant because they’ve been crossed in seven countries already, the important bit is getting another 560k votes from anywhere (in the EU).
The actual hurdle is those 1m votes, any initiative that is not completely lopsided will take the per-country hurdles with ease, as you can tell by this initiative having achieved that while not yet having half of the votes it needs. In fact taking all the thresholds together you wouldn’t reach 1m votes but ~0.5m, that is by design.
That’s not to say that it’d be a bad idea to do pushes in certain countries, particularly large ones which are less hooked into English media than the usual suspects. By population: France, Italy, Spain, Romania, Belgium is covered by Netherlands+France, Czechia, Portugal, Greece, that’s all >=10m member states lagging behind. No point in going after Sweden or the Netherlands people there are already in the loop, and Poland seems to have rallied itself.
Yeah, nevermind then. Let’s do nothing. Might as well just twiddle our thumbs and hope the large countries find another 500k people to sign the initiative. The small countries can be ignored 🤷♂
You’re being helped with info on where you can get the biggest return on your efforts, not being told to do nothing. Your reply is kind of rude if you ask me.
- hey, we need a final push for these countries
- nah, shut up, they are irrelevant, concentrate on these instead
- *sarcastic response*
- the person telling you to shut up is being helpful, your sarcasm is rude
OK.
Theyre not telling you to shut up, they’re telling you the required treshold is reached and explaining to you there is no point in giving these countries ‘a final push’ so go home and actually read that comment.
They are dismissing the value of getting more of those small countries on board. Getting them past the threshold could also have an effect on the gamers in those countries. Who knows what kinds of people may have been untapped. Discarding them as irrelevant is counter-productive.
“Shut up, let the big boys do the lifting”. It’s the same attitudes that are pervasive throughout the union. The voices of those small countries are important. The line of thinking that small countries don’t matter fits very well with the “I’m just one person, so if I don’t vote, nobody will care”. We should be encouraging our brethren from smaller countries to be part of the democratic process instead of just excluding them. The Union wouldn’t listen to the Eastern States after Crimea’s invasion in 2014 and shrugged them off during the renewed invasion.
Imagine if we said the same thing about queers. “Nah, we don’t need their votes, they’re irrelevant, let’s focus on the hets”.
So yes, the implication of irrelevance bothers me because it’s deeper than just this issue.
You are annoying and stubborn.
It isn’t the votes that are irrelevant, it’s the treshold. Just please read the explanation why that is, to me it sounds like you only read the first 4 or 5 words of that comment.
I don’t think you’re reading my comment in its entirety.
So yes, the implication of irrelevance bothers me because it’s deeper than just this issue.
This is the important bit.
that’s a small town
Luxembourg is kind of a small town tho 🤣
Okay, I’ll see myself out 😬
seven countries and one million total votes. it’s not even close on the second one, needs like 550k more.
Sure, but look at what’s going on in Lithuania. They can’t get 2k people to sign the petition? Wth? Are there no Lithuanian gamers?
Because every EU country has its own media and public discourse spaces, and no European Initiative ever manages to get attention in all member states. They usually focus on those member states where they have contacts and multipliers who can spread it
I wonder if it’s a language issue? Lithuanian is only really spoken in Lithuania, which is quite a small country, and most Lithuanians also don’t speak another EU language (the most common second language by a wide margin is Russian). It might be that nobody has made a successful effort to publicise the campaign in a language that most Lithuanians know. The disclaimer here is that I don’t speak Lithuanian and cannot check
Lithuanian here who signed the petition like a year or so ago.
There’s a decent chunk of Lithuanian gamers, but social medias and spaces that they inhabit are primarily in Lithuanian language such as Facebook, Lithuanian gaming groups on Discord/TikTok and things like that. Rarely there are some odd Lithuanians like me who venture out to the English speaking web to sites such as Reddit, but there’s no guarantee the initiative will be found or if the person will care enough to sign it.
Granted, take what I say with a spoonful of salt as I don’t actively seek out or look for Lithuanian digital spaces at all, this is based on my experience with friends and acquaintances.
If you could share the initiative in the lithuanian spaces, that’d be great. Here it is in Lithuanian
too few gamers that care or know about this.
Honestly. Is it also that hard to believe that there might also be people out there who just don’t agree with this whole initiative?
I cannot fathom why someone wouldnt agree with it. Unless you are a publisher.
Or have fallen for misinfo about it
Pirate Software - that cunt
For Luxembourg almost 80% are missing. Let’s try to motivate bigger countries that are close to the threshold.
Looking at you France and Spain, just a little more! Belgium, you are doing great, just a 1000 more please.
My good Sir do you know what is Malta?
Apparently an island of useless chuds who can’t sign a petition.
And they ruined my friend’s stomach! He could eat a lot before his vacation there.
That’s a common issue with italian people travelling there since “malta” is a somewhat edible construction material.
How does it work? Does every country need to pass the threshold? Only a certain amount of countries?
7 countries and 1 million total signatures
Thank you!
