• Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world
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    If everything we are seeing is true, then why o why are the police not doing anything? Anyone can put on a mask, and claim to be ICE. People need to start defending themselves. You might think your loved ones are in some ICE hell hole, but they could also be in some dungeon being gang raped by junkies for some sick cunts amusement. You all need to defend yourself. Demand that the police do their fucking jobs, and protect the citizens from kidnapping.

    Go down to the station. DEMAND that they do their fucking jobs.

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    This kind of stuff needs to be happening everywhere. While tame, I feel they are effective. Sure, there have been a few outbursts, but nothing on a deadly scale (that I’ve heard of). The protests, the recordings, the notifications are all good things, and it needs to continue.

    What this administration is banking on, is that someone snaps and does commit a violent crime, or that a violent protest does break out so that they can finally implement their grand takeover scheme. They are trying so hard and lying every step of the way to write their own story on what’s occurring. They know exactly what they are doing - attempting to find a fuse that they can light. They are not “freaking out”.

    People are pissed. Yelling, recording, using vulgar language aren’t the best tools, but they are not acts of violence. We have to toe the line very carefully, but we also need to continue finding ways to make it known what is happening in cities and streets. The mainstream media isn’t going to help. It doesn’t matter what side they say they are on. If they truly cared, they’d be out there everyday because this shit is happening 24/7. It’s up to the people to make it known.

    • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.world
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      We’re aligned against the rich, the police, the military, the judges, Congress, the president, the (most influential American) priests, and the press. And every major social media platform. And the government is currently shut down.

      And they need you to “be violent” so they can justify what comes next? If that’s what they need, the violence will occur by hook or crook. Disasters are frequent, and none are being wasted.

      It’s past time for a prolonged general strike. Short of that, the only hope for a return to norms is a military coup, and even that is only a fool’s hope.

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    ICE is not ‘kidnapping’ illegal aliens,”

    “Aliens”: dehumanizing is the first step.

    “Not kidnapping”: so the cases are traceable, the not-kidnapped healthy in body and spirit and the agent’s are not anonym?

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    If they haven’t seen a lawyer or heard charges or been arraigned, it’s a kidnapping by an unidentified masked vigilante.

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    White house freaking out? Only because they want to use ICE to catch and jail the makers of the signs and can’t find them. It wouldn’t be because ICE are actually gestapo.

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      No, because that makes some people think. And Trump & co. know they can only hold the facade of a legal government up if the people agree.

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    You know who also abducted people randomly?

    THE FUCKING NAZIS IN GERMANY!

    But something like that would never happen in the Land of The Free and The Home of The Brave, right?

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    DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. “These smears have led to a 1,000% increase in assaults against our officers — including terrorist threats, vehicle attacks, and bounties on their heads.”

    I’d love to see the data to back that up.

    Also, we can do better. Why not a 10,000% increase? Or a 100,000% increase?

    Like the man in the stall said to the guy waiting, “Gimme time baby, gimme time”

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      Id love to see the names and badge numbers of those officers that were assaulted. Also the names and badges of those who witnessed it and any bodycam footage.

      Hold onto those names and footage for charging them after the fascists fall and these people need to be held to account.

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      An incredibly convenient property of small numbers is that if you add a small number to a very small number, the % increase is orders of magnitude larger than both numbers combined and that looks very impressive when you are pretending to do statistics.

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    These smears have led to a 1,000% increase in assaults against our officers — including terrorist threats, vehicle attacks, and bounties on their heads.

    Bullshit.

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      They went from like one hundred charges of assault against officers to like two hundred because of Trump deploying ICE to invade communities.

      The problem with this is glaring. First of all they constantly lie, so tons of people are erroneously charged with assault and they are literally using military equipment to attack civilians. They are not the good guys by any stretch of imagination.

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      I saw somewhere (I think it was Some More News, but I’m not sure) that they reached “1000% increase in assaults against ICE” the following way:

      Last year, there were 3 minor assaults on ICE thugs reported and this year, thanks in part to the new policy of classifying any reaction to their presence other than worshipful compliance as “assault”, it’s 32.

      Even using THOSE methods, it’s still only “assaults” REPORTED. As far as we know, there might be as few as zero of the “assaults” that are ever proven in a court of law, let alone one where the judge isn’t a fascist-appointed hack that’ll automatically side with the American SS.

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        It’s so disingenuous. Their employment is way up and their interactions with people, both those they are targeting and the general public are way up.

        If I were literally any company, if I increased my workforce by over 1000% I’d expect anything happening to them to increase by at least 1000%.

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          Their employment is way up

          The story is 10,000 new ICE agents. Sounds like a lot, but even if they actually are making $100K a year (which means an employer cost of roughly $200K each), that’s $2 billion – or a staggering 1% of the $200 billion allocated to ICE in the recent spending bill (with the name so stupid I refuse to ever type it). Even as bad as ICE is, it’s still mostly a boondoggle for stuffing the wallets of trump supporters.

          And I’ll bet most of these ICE agents aren’t even making $100K a year. It’s just too obviously a shoestring operation for that to be the case. I suspect a lot of these “ICE agents” are actually undocumented immigrants themselves, given a stark choice between abducting other random Spanish-speaking people or deportation. And paid very little, just like undocumented immigrants everywhere.

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            From what I heard on social media, ICE is being paid a $1,500 per head they collect. I don’t have any confirmation about that, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it were true. What is true, is that many bounty hunters are now with ICE. It is a job that requires a lack of moral fiber, with craptacular results.

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      Can you imagine being an assassin and being asked to off ICE? That has to be the cheapest job going. Despite the fact they wear body armour, that’s a pretty easy target to hit because bulletproof vests don’t come in XXXL.

      What are they doing, offering two for one offers. Or is it more of a pride thing and they’re trying to work out how many they can take out with a single bullet.

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      I feel like they’re stupid for exaggerating it that much because its hard not to balk at fucking 1000%. Like more people would probably believe it if they had said, even like, 319% or something.

      And it just ruins their credibility further.

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        That also means they have data for a base rate. How many brave and patriotic ICE agents are killed on the job every day?

        I’ve seen them on TV and I’m pretty sure the leading cause of death must be cardiac arrest.

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        I wish it would, but you know the blue lines people are clutching their pearls at 1000%

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    Oh fuck yeah. Am going to share this article… We’ve got ICE scurrying around the area here where I live and when they sweep someone up and disapear them w/o letting friends and/or family know… Yeah. Time to make a stink. I hope this keeps going and spreads across the country.