Seriously, what Israel is doing today is no different from what the Nazis did before and at the beginning of World War II, extreme nationalism, illegal expansion, annexation of foreign territory claiming it historically belongs to them, propaganda using the latest technology, terrorizing neighbors, military at the center of society.

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    Nazism is only outright banned in a few democratic countries. Even in ones where it is, like Germany, there are parties that skirt around it, like AfD. Who are getting uncomfortably popular, BTW.

    It’s very hard to actually ban an ideology even in heavily authoritarian countries. Doubly so when it’s something that’s really hard to define, like Fascism. And no, the Ur-fascism paper isn’t even the final word on that subject.

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      That explains US for sure along with large number of Jewish billionaires and useful idiots who cosplay Christians

      I didn’t realize how ZIO vermin managed to infest germa by and uk. Shit is wild both essentially go against their self interest and purported value to accommodate the Israeli jews’ right to he genocide Arabs, some of which are even Christians

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    Because up until recently Zionists weren’t committing a genocide

    IMO all religion that says you’re entitled to shit should be banned from practicing publicly

    And it would be easier and more fair to just ban all orginized religion

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      I think there’s an argument that they’ve been slowly committing one since 1948 or even prior, but things have accelerated recently and the world seems to actually be aware of it now.

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    looking at russia, you can see nazis everywhere. Even the putin’s Wagner terror group is based on nazism ideologies.

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    How do you even define that? Why is pro Russianism not banned?

    What should they do after you have been found guilty of Zionism?

    PS Nazism ist not banned, it’s alive and well.

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    Zionism was originally an idealistic thought and evolved into something unrecognisable today. It was supported by most people across the world before. Zionism is inspired by nationalism, as was Nazism. If we bring your logic to its ultimate conclusion, then it goes to the circular questioning as to why is nationalism not been banned, despite causing so much harm and atrocity? Why is African nationalism not banned? Or Indian nationalism? Or Ukrainian nationalism? Even the history of nationalism has started with the best intentions. As had happened with most ideologies, however, they don’t end well. I think even the the mildest form of nationalism will eventually end up extreme. Nationalism is making a pact with the devil and expecting the due will never come. That is what happened on German nationalism leading to Nazism, and Israeli nationalism leading to Zionism. And soon, American nationalism leading to MAGA nationalism.

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      No actually it had always been considered a pretty dangerous far right idea, right up until the state of Israel was founded and then anti zionists became the fringe.

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    Zionism =/= Israel

    Blame the culprit. They’re just morally holding the world by the balls, if most western countries are christian predominantly. They bend the knee to their great spiritual grandpapa because they’re run by scared old men who cling to one last fantasy. For they have abandoned all other, even humanity and kindness.

    Zionist beliefs are not great in my opinion and I take a lot of issues with it, but it is the action that makes it transcend boundaries.

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    Old Zionism is good Zionism. Most of my life, Zionism was seen as good. After the atrocities of wwii, it was quite reasonable to support a Jewish state where they could defend themselves. For the next half century as various surrounding countries vowed to destroy them and kill them all, Zionism as the goal of a Jewish homeland seemed like a good thing.

    But now Zionism is the aggressor, rather than defender, the perpetrator rather than victim. They have their own country to defend themselves and it’s mostly accepted by their neighbors but wtf are they doing to Palestinians? How can they not look back on their own history to wwii and not be horrified by what they’ve become?

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      Zionism has never been good

      The nakba was in 1948. So Nazis would be okay if they only did a nakba and then stretched it out over 60 years? US middle school explanation

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        OP is saying they used to be better at managing media narratives that made them out to be the good guys. Social video of genocide is hard to hasbara over, but so is very naked political extremist speech. They used to be better at appearing reluctant to do offensive operations.

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    IMO it’s because the western oligarchs are making bank selling military tech to israel.

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      This is it. Israel is too profitable for them to detox from. They get to test out sick new tech to spy on and abuse their citizens, they get to put pressure on nations in the surrounding area with resources they want, and just the sheer amount of money selling weapons in general.

      It’s one of the most lucrative grifting exercises the western nations have ever designed.

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        What land? The booby trapped gravel pit that used to be Gaza? Nobody wants that.

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          Why would you say something so devoid of public knowledge or forethought? Settlers want it, because they claim it. Trump is talking about Trump Resort there.