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    9 hours ago

    What evidence? So far, none of it says he is a left winger. Everything we do know points to a MAGA family and village of similar idiots with violent tendencies and a gun-loving way of life.

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        7 hours ago

        Multiple people know him as from a rightwing family, he was photographed in MAGA gear, and plenty of MAGA are secretly gay.

        None of what you’ve said is even minutely comparable to the abundance of evidence that says he’s a rightwing abused child from a MAGA family.

        He’s also a registered Republic卐n.

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          8 hours ago

          cis guy dating a trans woman is not “gay”. he may himself identify as queer or bisexual but we don’t have to misgender his girlfriend out of a desire to play up his purported right wingedness.

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            Sorry, my ignorance of LGBTQ does not dilute my point.

            However, in my ignorance, I touched on something you didn’t try to refute and I appreciate it: Republicans are quite often in the closet while publicly raging against the thing they secretly embrace.

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              thats for sure a thing. with regards to the shooter i recommend reading ken klippenstein’s piece on him, it does not sound like theres enough evidence to firmly consider him a conservative or a groyper or an anarchist yet. he’s weirdly apolitical (aside from executing a bigot for as-yet-vague reasons) and several definitive assertions have been made and later retracted by large media outlets, often citing sources that recanted or hearsay that proved false.

              https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie

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                Thanks for the article. I’ll read it now.

                EDIT: I’d already read this one. It’s probably more factual than anything mainstream media has done and that’s including those from either side of the political spectrum.

                These days they’re all bowing to Trump anyways so who knows what to trust.

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      First of all, you completely missed the main point of my comment. If you think there’s no evidence then you shouldn’t be claiming one way or the other either, yet this post is presenting him as definitively right wing.

      Secondly, I didn’t say he is a left winger. I said (based on my judgement) the evidence shows he probably, maybe leans left.

      And answering your “what evidence” question, his text message to his roommate is released by the investigation. There are also statement from his mother stating he is “getting more and more left” (obviously, grains of salt). And there are leaked (released?) Discord messages from the killer.

      If you never heard any of these, then you probably are in an echo chamber.

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        7 hours ago

        I didn’t miss it. I ignored it the same way you so vociferously try to pull this rightwinger away from his rightwing history.