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    Multiple people know him as from a rightwing family, he was photographed in MAGA gear, and plenty of MAGA are secretly gay.

    None of what you’ve said is even minutely comparable to the abundance of evidence that says he’s a rightwing abused child from a MAGA family.

    He’s also a registered Republic卐n.

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      cis guy dating a trans woman is not “gay”. he may himself identify as queer or bisexual but we don’t have to misgender his girlfriend out of a desire to play up his purported right wingedness.

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        Sorry, my ignorance of LGBTQ does not dilute my point.

        However, in my ignorance, I touched on something you didn’t try to refute and I appreciate it: Republicans are quite often in the closet while publicly raging against the thing they secretly embrace.

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          thats for sure a thing. with regards to the shooter i recommend reading ken klippenstein’s piece on him, it does not sound like theres enough evidence to firmly consider him a conservative or a groyper or an anarchist yet. he’s weirdly apolitical (aside from executing a bigot for as-yet-vague reasons) and several definitive assertions have been made and later retracted by large media outlets, often citing sources that recanted or hearsay that proved false.

          https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie

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            Thanks for the article. I’ll read it now.

            EDIT: I’d already read this one. It’s probably more factual than anything mainstream media has done and that’s including those from either side of the political spectrum.

            These days they’re all bowing to Trump anyways so who knows what to trust.

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          Yes, and the voter registration is for a Tyler Robinson, not a Tyler James Robinson.

          The Snopes fact check has a screenshot of the registration of Tyler James Robinson.

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              Not on its own, but he’s not exactly a registered Republican either. Just wanted to correct that one thing.

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                  No, but I also hear that there are a lot of leftists with right wing parents, especially in Utah. Maybe that was why he moved out, I don’t know.

                  Maybe he was more right wing instead. I don’t know. I’m not the person who was saying he was leftist. I was just pointing out that he wasn’t a registered Republican.

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                    Was his upbringing a leftist one?

                    Were his friends? Neighbors? Church? Schoolmates? Bible class? Pastor?

                    The point, which apologists are eagerly falling over themselves to avoid, is that he was in a right wing world and had all of that in his corner. They’d like to focus instead on the chance that he may have rebelled against MAGA.