• plyth@feddit.org
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    22 hours ago

    There is more to South America than Venezuela, and Venezuela isn’t over. There was an attempt at the last election and there were war ships last week.

    Trump wanted 2% for NATO, but now most of Europe has decided to go to 3.5% - 5.0% because total independence from USA is the goal.

    USA got what they wanted and you feel good about it. What more to ask for?

    All because Trump is controlled by Putin. That’s propaganda. USA provides the supreme commander for Nato and nobody is questioning that command structure for the war against Russia.

    Most likely the EU will not push their social network law so US companies will keep deciding what Europeans read.

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      21 hours ago

      Some of those things are true, or at least partially true.
      But NOTHING you state shows allied democracies are vassals of USA, and Europe is already working on a defense that doesn’t depend on NATO.
      Regarding USA being the commander for NATO forces, what other command structure would you suggest?
      But apart from that USA is unlikely to be allowed that position for much longer. Trump wanted to destroy NATO and he basically has. But all other NATO countries than USA are still allies, and there are works in progress of EU/Canada and many eastern countries like Japan and Australia building a new alliance.
      USA has chosen to go it alone, but everyone else is working on continuing international cooperation to everyone’s benefit. On trade, on climate and on defense.
      Clear proof that USA never had vassal states, but actually free allies.

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        21 hours ago

        what other command structure would you suggest?

        An American commander doesn’t make sense if Trump works for Russia. I don’t believe that so everything can continue as is.

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          20 hours ago

          Oh so you were just throwing garbage at the wall. It’s not like you have any alternative. 👎

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            20 hours ago

            No, you must have missed my argument. The EU countries have increased the spending as the US demanded. To convince the population the US threatens to cut off their protection.

            That threat cannot be real or the military would implement a second command structure because it would be too late to negotiate with Türkiye, Canada and Great Britain about who should lead when Russia is attacking and the US doesn’t participate.

            It would also be highly important to buy some equipment to fill dangerous strategic gaps but we buy the regular stuff.

            So the US is still the backbone of our defence and we haven’t split. So if we are vassals we don’t have proof that we could split.

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              20 hours ago

              Still as I mentioned, just because allies supported the PAX Americana doesn’t mean they are vassal states, and you have failed completely in supporting that claim.

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                19 hours ago

                My claim is that the population of the vassal states is even more indoctrinated.

                You say countries were free to join Iraq war. That war was illegal. Ignoring that then doesn’t make sense if it is not ignored now in Ukraine unless there was some pressure.

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                  Yes the countries with actual free press and better basic education are more indoctrinated than a country absolutely infested by propaganda and misinformation.
                  There is no functional democracy that allow a cesspool of false propaganda like FOX news.
                  Is there any point where you stop making absolutely nonsensical claims?

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                    15 hours ago

                    You believe in free press while it is as owned as the American press. If you think that Americans are not free, but you are, while you see the prison of the Americans, wouldn’t you be more indoctrinated if you don’t check your freedom twice?