When the accusation means the death penalty with no trial, nobody is safe

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    That raises the question of whether Mr. Trump has legitimate authority to tell the military to summarily kill people it suspects are smuggling drugs — and whether the administration allowed career military lawyers to weigh in.

    Eat shit NYT, fuck this sanewashing bullshit. "Raises the question"my ass! He absolutely does not have the authority because the law fucking says so! Why does the media bend over fucking backward to lick their own assholes by acting like these are even questions to be answered‽ They have completely abdicated their duty as journalistic media. “Fourth estate” absolute bullshit capitulation to rogue powers with dictatorial intent.

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      Extra judicial killings are bread and butter for US presidents, made really popular by Obama.

      This is of course fucked, but there are clear precedents for presidents killing any one, including US citizens, they name a terrorist.

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        The deaths from Obama’s drones were no less judicial than the deaths from Bush’s troops, both were carried out within the definition of the ‘war on terror’, which was approved by Congress.

        Trump’s strike on that Venezuelan boat was outside of the approved scope.

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        You got it all wrong. Extra judicial killings outside the US are Gucci. Inside the US you’re only allowed judicial killings and obvious ‘suicides’.

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        Obama killed US citizens who were in Al-Qaida and ISIS training camps. I’d have done the same. Those fuckers are fair game.

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          US citizens are innocent until proven guilty. We do not allow our leaders to Proclaim guilt and execute even if it is overseas. We should have the same policy for foreigners as well. Anybody who thinks they can trust our politicians and leaders to execute people based on their own reasoning is quite mistaken.

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            We should have the same policy for foreigners as well.

            So when we were storming the beaches of Normandy, we put each Nazi soldier shooting at us on trial first? Funny, I don’t recall ever reading that we did that.

            Or going back a bit further, what about those Confederate soldiers? They were all US citizens, even if they claimed otherwise. The US government never accepted the fact that they were anything but insurrectionists (which is all that they were). It’s only the Confederate framing that claims they were an independent state during that time.

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              Fighting battles in a real war and intercepting civilian ships and international waters and killing everybody on board is not the same thing. It is an incredible argument to compare storming the beaches at Normandy with shooting a small boat out of the water in the Caribbean right now.