How would this stop them? Couldn’t they just use the same gun show/online loopholes (the many way ways to acquire a gun in America)everyone else does?
EDIT: changed the phrasing to more accurately reflect the reality to satisfy people’s dependence on nitpicking details at the cost of understanding the actual point.
I didn’t want to spark a semantic debate, I am genuinely curious how people perceive firearm sales and acquisition in the US.
In my experience of having purchased and sold a few guns over the years, it’s not quite as straightforward as most would believe. The laws vary by state, but in my cases all private sales (even at gun shows) are subject to background checks facilitated by an FFL holder (think gun store or pawn shop) and any applicable waiting periods.
That’s not to say back-alley deals don’t still occur and that unregulated states do a great job of tracking ownership, but the risk that private firearm sales and straw purchases pose are largely mitigated by the fact that most people don’t want to have their name linked to a firearm that was sold to some unsavory individual.
Serious question: do you believe that you can purchase a firearm from a commercial dealer online or at a gun show without regulation? Because in most cases, that simply isn’t true.
I’ll admit I’m not educated on the subject but it was my understanding that there is a loophole for gun shows.
In a country where there are more guns than people, I don’t believe the barriers to entry for gun ownership for someone who really wants one are substantial. So fundamentally, yes, I do believe this.
The loophole is for private sales. A person can sell their personal firearms to another person without going through a licensed dealer, which means no background check. A gun dealer at a gun show needs to do a background check, but if someone just wants to sell some of their guns at the show, they can just take the cash no questions asked. It applies to GunBroker too, which is like ebay for guns.
I’ve never been to a gun show, but I went to a guitar show as a teenager, looking to buy a bass, and I ended up chatting up some dude carrying his Rickenbacker 4001 around in a case, looking to sell.
We went out to the parking lot and made a private sale. All cash, no tax, no receipt.
Yeah but even with gun broker it depends on the state your buying in. Most cases they will ship the gun to your local FFL, where you then still have to go through all the paperwork to get the gun released.
Don’t private sale happen at gun shows? And don’t you find it a little silly that you are criticizing the detail of HOW this is done while missing the bigger picture of how easy it is to get a gun in America.
Here are me to edit that post to suit you pedantry.
How would this stop them? Couldn’t they just use the
same gun show/online loopholes(the many way ways to acquire a gun in America)everyone else does?EDIT: changed the phrasing to more accurately reflect the reality to satisfy people’s dependence on nitpicking details at the cost of understanding the actual point.
I didn’t want to spark a semantic debate, I am genuinely curious how people perceive firearm sales and acquisition in the US.
In my experience of having purchased and sold a few guns over the years, it’s not quite as straightforward as most would believe. The laws vary by state, but in my cases all private sales (even at gun shows) are subject to background checks facilitated by an FFL holder (think gun store or pawn shop) and any applicable waiting periods.
That’s not to say back-alley deals don’t still occur and that unregulated states do a great job of tracking ownership, but the risk that private firearm sales and straw purchases pose are largely mitigated by the fact that most people don’t want to have their name linked to a firearm that was sold to some unsavory individual.
Probably. I think this is more about providing an excuse for jailing any trans who choose to own a firearm, rather than stopping them
Serious question: do you believe that you can purchase a firearm from a commercial dealer online or at a gun show without regulation? Because in most cases, that simply isn’t true.
True, just get someone to gift it to you.
I’ll admit I’m not educated on the subject but it was my understanding that there is a loophole for gun shows.
In a country where there are more guns than people, I don’t believe the barriers to entry for gun ownership for someone who really wants one are substantial. So fundamentally, yes, I do believe this.
The loophole is for private sales. A person can sell their personal firearms to another person without going through a licensed dealer, which means no background check. A gun dealer at a gun show needs to do a background check, but if someone just wants to sell some of their guns at the show, they can just take the cash no questions asked. It applies to GunBroker too, which is like ebay for guns.
I’ve never been to a gun show, but I went to a guitar show as a teenager, looking to buy a bass, and I ended up chatting up some dude carrying his Rickenbacker 4001 around in a case, looking to sell.
We went out to the parking lot and made a private sale. All cash, no tax, no receipt.
Yeah but even with gun broker it depends on the state your buying in. Most cases they will ship the gun to your local FFL, where you then still have to go through all the paperwork to get the gun released.
Don’t private sale happen at gun shows? And don’t you find it a little silly that you are criticizing the detail of HOW this is done while missing the bigger picture of how easy it is to get a gun in America.
Here are me to edit that post to suit you pedantry.
Commercial dealer? No. Some dude in the parking lot named Colton? Absolutely.