• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’d prefer an AMD 9000 series because I refuse to support Nvidia, but the upgradability is still an amazing achievement. I’m glad to see Framework delivering.

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        Their website still lists RX 7000M & S series, but I don’t know of a single *other *laptop brand that currently offers them. There is certainly is no hint of a 9000 series mobile GPU, which is a shame. I probably won’t buy another laptop until AMD is back in the mobile GPU game. Not that they’re perfect, but they are significantly less evil than NVidia.

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        Most people don’t need them. The gaming and workstation laptop market is smaller than ever. The integrated graphics has been “good enough” for a while now.

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          Especially since the Steam Deck and derivatives mostly killed the gaming laptop niche market.

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            High end gaming laptops needed desktop GPUs anyway, because at least for nVidia, once you get past the **60 range, the mobile version starts getting very small jumps in performance compared to the desktop.

            At some point it’s cheaper to get a gaming desktop and a cheap laptop lol

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      Out of curiosity, why do you refuse to support Nvidia? AMD isn’t some saint, they’re a shitty corporation just like Nvidia. They got lucky when Jim Keller saved their asses with the Ryzen architecture in the mid-2010s. They haven’t really innovated a god damn thing since then and it shows.

      Edit: I get it, I get it, Nvidia is a much shittier company and I agree. I was pretty drunk last night before bed, please pardon the shots fired

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        Besides what was mentioned below, it’s not about making competitive products but about Nvidia being an absolute asshole since the 2000s and they got even worse ever since the crypto and AI craze started. AMD and Nvidia are both corporations but they are not even playing the same game when it comes to being anti-competitive.

        There’s a reason why Wikipedia has a controversies section on Nvidia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia#Controversies

        That list is far from exhaustive. There’s so much more about Nvidia that you should remember vividly if you were a PC gamer in the 2000s and 2010s with an AMD GPU, like:

        • When they pushed developers to use an unecessary amount of tesselation because they knew tesselation performed worse on AMD
        • When they pushed their Gameworks framework which heavily gimped AMD GPUs
        • When they pushed their PhysX framework which automatically offloaded to CPU on AMD GPUs
        • When they disabled their GPUs in their driver when they detected an AMD GPU is also present in the system
        • When they were cheating in benchmarks by adding optimizations specific to those benchmarks
        • When they shipped an incomplete Vulkan implementation but claimed they are compliant

        Nvidia has been gimping gaming performance and visuals since forever for both AMD GPUs and even their own customers and we haven’t even gotten to DLSS and raytracing yet.

        I refuse to buy anything Nvidia until they stop abusing their market position at every chance they get.

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        they’re a shitty corporation just like Nvidia

        Neither of them are anyone’s friend, but claiming they’re the same level of nasty is a bit of a stretch.

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          Not saying that supporting the under dog isn’t good.

          Just don’t think AMD is less “nasty”, the only thing stopping them is the lack of power to do so.

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          Except that AMD doesn’t support HDMI 2.1 on Linux (not their fault to be fair, but still)

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              I personally don’t have a need for it, but if someone has a 4K 120Hz TV or monitor without DisplayPort that they want to use as such, it’s kinda stupid that they can’t.

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                yeah, but that’s the fault of the HDMI standards group. AMD cards could only support HDMI 2.1 if they closed their driver down. I guess this can’t be fixed with a DP to HDMI adapter either, right?

                my opinion: displayport is superior, and if I have a HDMI-only screen with supposed 4k 120Hz support I treat it as false info.

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            Is that the case on mobile APUs as well? I’m pretty sure my laptop with 7840u does 4k120hz

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          That’s completely valid, I haven’t had issues on Linux myself with nvidia, but I know it’s definitely a thing for a lot of people.

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        Haven’t innovated? 3D chip stacking?

        CPU companies generally don’t change their micro-architecture, especially when it works.