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    Does that mean you’re going to remove anyone from the party that doesn’t endorse popular progressive candidates? No? Then shut the fuck up, liar.

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    The DNC is a fucking joke, center-right party that hasn’t given a fuck about anything except corporate money since 1990. See their lack of support for an actual leftist in the NYC Mayoral race

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      Saw Ken Klippenstein post that schumer hasn’t held an interview in over two months. Completely turtled up after the book tour fiasco.

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        His glasses must have completely fallen off of his nose and he’s stumbling around not knowing what to do.

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    Assuming Trump doesn’t make himself President for life, the Democrats should be drawing up plans to radically reverse all the damage he has done and be prepared to have the fascists from the criminal Trump administration arrested. They can’t be allowed to get away with what they’re doing.

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      The time to do that was 2020-2024, honestly. They had power. Now they’re having to fight the whole fucking thing uphill, and of course Trump is going to make himself president for life.

      They should try to recover us to a democracy, IDK what the fuck the alternative would be. But the time to put Trump in custody was January 2021. Now we’ve got the exact same fight on our hands that that would have caused, but they get to be inside the castle shooting out.

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        they tried to use overt fascism as a threat against us to get us to accept another decade of neoliberal fascism. well jokes on them, we’re very stupid, those kinds of threats won’t work on us, we’ll pull that overt fascism lever, apparently

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      This. It isn’t so much “both sides should be cheating,” it should be “cheaters are not allowed to play.”

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      You guys lost the presidency for a generation… You guys need to regroup and come up with a plan/message

      I got a pen and a phone -Obama

      We don’t need Congress

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      Glad you guys finally caught on…

      The voting members of the DNC woke up years ago…

      But because the president can basically just seat a chair, their last two elections was 2017 and 2025.

      They picked Ken Martin, a guy who spent a decade running Minnesota and turning it from a purple state into solid blue with some of the most progressive House members.

      By all means criticize the party and the system over all…

      But you have to understand it first, otherwise you’ll just keep getting manipulated

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        They picked Ken Martin, a guy who spent a decade running Minnesota and turning it from a purple state into solid blue with some of the most progressive House members.

        The same Minnesota whose local democrats are now stiffing Omar Fateh?

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    This is great they finally want to fight back. I’m just gonna say it though kiss Democracy goodnight. We ain’t ever coming back from this.

    They should have fought back decades ago when we still had a democracy to save. All this will do is save some power for them. We desperately need democratic reforms of all types.

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    So, fuck the law altogether, then? This is not the “solution” people think it is.

    When the rules get broken, there need to be consequences. You don’t just throw out the rules, instead. This is seriously the dumbest timeline.

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      We don’t have rule of law. There’s no point in appealing to the rule of law when there is none.

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      When one party plays by a set of rules and the other doesn’t the rule-conforming party will necessarily be disadvantaged. Fighting fire with fire is the only way to meaningfully fight fascism, setting aside whether the Democratic establishment is even capable of that.

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      We need to codify the rules into actual laws & constitutional amendments before we go blind from eye-for-an-eye politics.

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        yeah. that way it can’t be broken like habeus corpos and due process!!! /s I have been thinking of some limits I would like to see. Like no more than one member can be in a constitutional position from a family where the set is bounded by who you can’t marry so first cousins. Once someone wins or is appointed office it locks out the relatives to do the same until they die/leave the position.

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      The rules were thrown out during his first term. The dude has taken over our capital and armed them, and is now going to take over NYC, Chicago and a few others. This isn’t the time to go along, we have a corrupt SCOTUS as well. What do you suggest?

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        Defend the Constitution from all threats, both foreign and domestic. But that doesn’t have to mean “fighting fire with fire”.

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          Do not split and no cracks. You don’t have to agree with how they are fighting the system, but keep your thoughts private and instead, explain how your system is awesome.

          But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.

          And when they are, that’s going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it’s going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we’re not going to criticize them openly, and they’re not going to criticize us openly.

          If we’re the pacifists, we’re not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don’t know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we’re not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.

          https://sh.itjust.works/post/42969194

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            I have no problem with protesters clashing with unlawfully deployed police. What I do have a problem with is the idea that, “if they can break the rules, then so can we”. That, I will criticize. Because that indicates that we are not on the same side anymore.

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              It’s not “if they can break the rules, then so can we." It’s “They’re taking over our country by deploying armed troops everywhere, ICE, a corrupt Scotus, EO’s that break the law and presidential immunity. There are no rules to be broken anymore. We must save our democracy or we’ll be sorry we didn’t.”

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      No, it just means that Democrats will work in the letter of the law, not only its spirit. Laws as written and contort them to get what you need.