This seems to happen whether or not totalitarian traits existed in the ideology, before coming to power.

“Whether or not” examples on the “not” part?

I am struggling to think of much there that would be inherently incompatible with even far-left socialism.

The right to private property and wealth accumulation. Aka the so-called “free” market. Property rights as a core part of liberty (meaning that when you violate someone’s private property you violate their liberty) is an idea at the core of liberal thought. Meanwhile socialist ideologies are all built on the idea of redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor. This is a fundamental, irreconcilable contradiction.

I mean, Hitler took inspiration from Manifest Destiny and American actions in the early 20th century, so Americans at the time weren’t meaningfully distinguishable from Nazis on the atrocities front.

There are plenty of systems under the umbrella term of “communism,” not all of which are totalitarian. If you’re specifically talking about Marxist-Leninism (the Soviet and Chinese implementation) then yeah fair that sucks, but when you just say “communists” you’re also including folks like council communists.

Liberal parties too.

It’s a precise term with a very specific definition in international law,

It’s not, actually. At least not that I know of.

I’m counting from the early 2000s when the Israelis were still actually making plausible 2 state solution proposals, even if only rhetorically.

In that case you want the early 90s instead with the Oslo accords.

Since then there hasn’t even been even lip service, as far as I can tell.

There was one more farce after that, I think in 2014.

They always are. Freeing Palestinian hostages/detainees is pretty much at the top of any list of demands by Palestinian resistance organizations. By handing them over they can avoid making any other concessions during ceasefire negotiations and the like.

I get that to westerners “terrorist” is the worst label ever, but terrorism is weak sauce compared to the shit Israel gets up to. “Colonizers” would be a much more appropriate label.

*~60 years. That’s when settlement started.

Isn’t 35000 people way too few for a big city in six years?

When you’re voting with your wallet, people with bigger wallets have bigger votes, and those guys tend to not be on the right side of most issues.

He didn’t directly murder people, but the ideas and beliefs he spread did. I mean, at the very least his Covid conspiracy theories were killing people.

So? What the hell is your point?

Then what should realistically be done about the intolerant when they enforce their intolerance on others (i.e. what people like Kirk are doing)?

It’s in the European Broadcasting Area. So is most of the Middle East, but in the region only Israel participates.

I mean, telling people to overthrow their government isn’t a punishable offense.

I mean, maybe top 5 but let’s not forget Lincoln.

Details?

I mean, what about him? What did he do?