I take this as a comparison sometimes. Also the PS2 got five GTAs, Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories were released on PS2 too. The PS3 and Xbox 360 got two GTAs, and everything after got remasters. PS5 will probably get GTA 6, so GTA skipped the PS4/Xbox One generation.
There have been some great games with development times that long. But for crying out loud, if you’re not making a surefire success, make a smaller game so it’s less risky.
I’m playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance II right now, and it’s excellent. Baldur’s Gate 3 took 6 years, though they attribute a good portion of that to an Eastern European war and a pandemic. Given other side projects, it’s a bit nebulous exactly how long Indiana Jones and Great Circle took that team to make, but it was somewhere between 5 and 7 years, and I loved it. I’m not exactly a fan of Nintendo lately, but people sure do love Donkey Kong Bananza, and that team had been working on that game more or less since Mario Odyssey’s release in 2017.
They just ported all the PS4 games and slap PS5 on them. I bought a PS5 and not single game I have on it you can’t also buy a 4 version. Except for Dead Island 2, and it was meh. I have not used my PS5 in over a year it just collects dust. With PC games I get all I need and more. But I have looked at new games for it and not impressed with the lineup.
I bought mine for my girlfriend to play Hogwarts Legacy. I myself have played FF7, FF16, AstroBot and Expedition33. That’s twice as much games as I have played on the Switch2. And AstroBot is the only one of them you can’t play on a PC
It really does feel like this. And most of the new “ps5” games they also make for 4! Off the top of my head I can think of demons souls, ff16, ff7r part 2, and death stranding 2 were ps5 only and 3 of those are only timed exclusives
It’s because half the player base still only has the PS4, like myself. I just could never justify spending that much money on a console that can only hold like 8 games Anyways without paying a crazy amount for extra storage, when I can still play the same games on the console I already have. I was more than happy to spend twice the money building a decent desktop where I can play just about anything I want with way more freedom.
I don’t think that’s a bad thing, though. It’s not like I’d be bothered if someone with a GPU 5 years older than mine is able to play the same game on PC.
This is what consoles just should be. No longer locking games to specific generations, letting newer hardware run older titles better, and letting developers continue developing for lower hardware targets to include more people.
if you’re not really there for it then sure, but i got a ps5 for ff7 remake, kh3 and ff16 and i personally think I got my money’s worth. loved every goddamn second.
it helped that I got p5r and expedition 33 as well, what a beaut of a bonus they were
Them being told they’re timed exclusives isn’t really the problem being discussed though. Seems weird to invalidate a console having a game just because it’s available elsewhere. If you don’t already have a PC, a PS5 for it’s performance is way cheaper than getting the PC equivalent.
I’m just adding historical context that those games were exclusives. If them being exclusive meant “the ps5 has games” then timed exclusivity didnt really help in this case.
Ahh, that’s a bummer. Hopefully she’s not too onerous about it. Some people don’t understand games as a hobby or down time activity but then are fine with tv/movies/books.
Nah. She’s right lol. Last month my PlayStation stats said I played 12 titles for 39 hours. So plenty of gaming to be had. The issue is that I’m addicted to humble bundles and have over 100 games there I’ve never played…
I am. I grew up with the PS1 and I really liked the simplicity, ease of use, affordability and reliability of older gens, but the newer ones seem to have all the cons of consoles and none of the benefits.
I grew up with cartridges, so this is hilarious to me. With PS1, you had to put in a disc, close the lid, press the power button, wait for the logo startup sequence, then your game would start (assuming there’s not some kind of problem that kicks you back to the disc/memory card screen). Don’t even get me started on disc damage 😂
Now I’m a PC gamer with a humongous digital collection. Nothing gets damaged, and I get to keep all my games.
Same here, although even earlier. As a family of five Sony’s horribly bad game sharing within the family if you have more than one PS5 (we do) has sealed the deal for us. I’ve just built up two Bazzite-based Steamboxes and that’s going to be our couchgaming from now on.
Part of the “problem” is that the current gen launched basically at the height of COVID. People were distracted when it came out and studios took a huge productivity hit at a time when they would be pushing to get those games out.
But it is coming up on 5 years and console generations tend to be 6-8 years if memory serves. Considering how much work goes into prepping the hardware, it makes sense to see “leaks” now for what will likely hit shelves in the fall of 2027 or 2028.
But I think the bigger issue is that we kind of all know these are “just” computers and most games are multiplatform. Combine that with backwards compatibility and there really aren’t that many distinguishing games of a generation. Which is why it is a common refrain that this is probably the last “console generation” with the future being closer to PCs where you just have new hardware every few years and upgrade when a game you want needs it or you get bored.
Are we already talking about next gen leaks? Damn, this generation passed by and I barely noticed it.
Many still play on Playstation 4 and suprising amount of games still get released for both.
Its also funny that in Fighting game locals most games are still played on PS4 with Tekken 8 being pretty much the only one requiring PS5.
That’s because there are barely any fucking games this gen it feels like
What are you talking about? There’s a new remake or remaster every other day!
So many resources wasted on live service projects that got canceled or flopped, that’s why
Yeah, I’ve been watching from the sidelines and still haven’t seen anything that moves the needle sufficiently.
Where are the games?!
They all take seven years to make, so there aren’t as many of them.
Yeah. The PS2 got three GTAs, GTA V got three consoles.
I take this as a comparison sometimes. Also the PS2 got five GTAs, Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories were released on PS2 too. The PS3 and Xbox 360 got two GTAs, and everything after got remasters. PS5 will probably get GTA 6, so GTA skipped the PS4/Xbox One generation.
Unfortunately they’re not significantly more fun despite that.
There have been some great games with development times that long. But for crying out loud, if you’re not making a surefire success, make a smaller game so it’s less risky.
Can you name some? I don’t mean to be derisive, I just literally can’t think of any right now.
I’m playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance II right now, and it’s excellent. Baldur’s Gate 3 took 6 years, though they attribute a good portion of that to an Eastern European war and a pandemic. Given other side projects, it’s a bit nebulous exactly how long Indiana Jones and Great Circle took that team to make, but it was somewhere between 5 and 7 years, and I loved it. I’m not exactly a fan of Nintendo lately, but people sure do love Donkey Kong Bananza, and that team had been working on that game more or less since Mario Odyssey’s release in 2017.
They just ported all the PS4 games and slap PS5 on them. I bought a PS5 and not single game I have on it you can’t also buy a 4 version. Except for Dead Island 2, and it was meh. I have not used my PS5 in over a year it just collects dust. With PC games I get all I need and more. But I have looked at new games for it and not impressed with the lineup.
Oh shit PS5 has no games?
Well they do just very few, and the ones they have exclusive aren’t all that great.
I bought mine for my girlfriend to play Hogwarts Legacy. I myself have played FF7, FF16, AstroBot and Expedition33. That’s twice as much games as I have played on the Switch2. And AstroBot is the only one of them you can’t play on a PC
It really does feel like this. And most of the new “ps5” games they also make for 4! Off the top of my head I can think of demons souls, ff16, ff7r part 2, and death stranding 2 were ps5 only and 3 of those are only timed exclusives
It’s because half the player base still only has the PS4, like myself. I just could never justify spending that much money on a console that can only hold like 8 games Anyways without paying a crazy amount for extra storage, when I can still play the same games on the console I already have. I was more than happy to spend twice the money building a decent desktop where I can play just about anything I want with way more freedom.
I don’t think that’s a bad thing, though. It’s not like I’d be bothered if someone with a GPU 5 years older than mine is able to play the same game on PC.
This is what consoles just should be. No longer locking games to specific generations, letting newer hardware run older titles better, and letting developers continue developing for lower hardware targets to include more people.
Yeah, my ps5 is a netflix machine, and my son plays apex on it. I barely bought any games.
if you’re not really there for it then sure, but i got a ps5 for ff7 remake, kh3 and ff16 and i personally think I got my money’s worth. loved every goddamn second.
it helped that I got p5r and expedition 33 as well, what a beaut of a bonus they were
I have played the exact same games as you have, but add AstroBot.
They might mean exclusives, of which none of those apply. But I personally don’t think exclusives are a good thing anyway.
FF7 Remake, Rebirth and FF16 were timed exclusives, though all have since left and Square Enix said “never again, it wasn’t profitable enough.”
Them being told they’re timed exclusives isn’t really the problem being discussed though. Seems weird to invalidate a console having a game just because it’s available elsewhere. If you don’t already have a PC, a PS5 for it’s performance is way cheaper than getting the PC equivalent.
I’m just adding historical context that those games were exclusives. If them being exclusive meant “the ps5 has games” then timed exclusivity didnt really help in this case.
My psvr2 backlog would like a word with you…
My god he does exist
I wanted to get a psvr2 to use on my pc.
I hear amazing things but wife says I already play enough lol
Ahh, that’s a bummer. Hopefully she’s not too onerous about it. Some people don’t understand games as a hobby or down time activity but then are fine with tv/movies/books.
Nah. She’s right lol. Last month my PlayStation stats said I played 12 titles for 39 hours. So plenty of gaming to be had. The issue is that I’m addicted to humble bundles and have over 100 games there I’ve never played…
Lol humble bundles are a fantastic way to build up a backlog. I have a pretty thick collection waiting to be played as well.
Become a PC gamer and you don’t experience “generations” anymore.
Instead you see GPUs release for the same price as, or more than, a current gen console every two years.
Never paid for a GPU on its own, I just buy a new gaming laptop every 5 years.
Shit, maybe I am going through generations 😂
The disappointment of the PS5 plus the surprise of the Steam Deck turned me, personally
I am. I grew up with the PS1 and I really liked the simplicity, ease of use, affordability and reliability of older gens, but the newer ones seem to have all the cons of consoles and none of the benefits.
I grew up with cartridges, so this is hilarious to me. With PS1, you had to put in a disc, close the lid, press the power button, wait for the logo startup sequence, then your game would start (assuming there’s not some kind of problem that kicks you back to the disc/memory card screen). Don’t even get me started on disc damage 😂
Now I’m a PC gamer with a humongous digital collection. Nothing gets damaged, and I get to keep all my games.
One double-click, and I’m gaming.
So long as gaben is there at least. I hate to think how badly valve will fall once he’s no longer there.
Same here, although even earlier. As a family of five Sony’s horribly bad game sharing within the family if you have more than one PS5 (we do) has sealed the deal for us. I’ve just built up two Bazzite-based Steamboxes and that’s going to be our couchgaming from now on.
No PS6.
Part of the “problem” is that the current gen launched basically at the height of COVID. People were distracted when it came out and studios took a huge productivity hit at a time when they would be pushing to get those games out.
But it is coming up on 5 years and console generations tend to be 6-8 years if memory serves. Considering how much work goes into prepping the hardware, it makes sense to see “leaks” now for what will likely hit shelves in the fall of 2027 or 2028.
But I think the bigger issue is that we kind of all know these are “just” computers and most games are multiplatform. Combine that with backwards compatibility and there really aren’t that many distinguishing games of a generation. Which is why it is a common refrain that this is probably the last “console generation” with the future being closer to PCs where you just have new hardware every few years and upgrade when a game you want needs it or you get bored.
Same. At least for me part of the problem is that I got a PS5 two years after release because I couldn’t get one, I’m not going to pay scalpers.