The alleged officers detaining hundreds if not thousands of people each day in California and across the country are often masked. They sometimes refuse to answer questions, including which agency they represent. They threaten force — and even use it to make arrests of bystanders — when they are challenged.

In the first video I watched, a man in an unmarked car detains another man sitting on a bus bench in Pasadena. The man presumed to be a federal agent has on a vest that simply says “Police” and a cheap black ski mask that covers every bit of his face — the kind that looks like it was purchased on Amazon and that we have previously most associated with criminals such as robbers and rapists. A few of his colleagues are in the background, some also seemingly masked.

If these men approached me or one of my kids dressed like that, I would run. I would fight. I would certainly not take his word that he was “police” and had the right to force me into his car.

In the second video, another presumed federal agent jumps out of his unmarked vehicle and draws his weapon on a civilian attempting to take a photo of the license plate.

Yes — he points his gun at a civilian who is not threatening him or committing a crime. Folks, maybe you consider it a bad idea to try to photograph what may or may not be a legitimate police operation, but it is not illegal. This alleged officer appears to have simply not liked what was happening, and threatened to shoot the person upsetting him. The man taking the photo ran away, but what would have happened had he not?

These actions by alleged authorities are examples of impunity, and it is what happens when accountability is lost.

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    Impersonating police or military is usually a very high risk thing to be doing.

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      Failure to act, not doing things while you still have time, also has a very high risk.

      Its a very, very common mental miscalculation to only look at the risk on one side of the balance sheet.

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          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Thought_They_Were_Free

          In 1953 Mayer interviewed ten male residents of “Kronenberg” (in reality Marburg) to understand how ordinary Germans felt about Nazi Germany.[2][3][4] The town, located in Hesse with a population of 20,000 and a university, was controlled by the United States during the postwar period of occupation.[5] The interviews occurred during Mayer’s term at Frankfurt University’s Institute for Social Research as a visiting professor.[6] All ten were in the lower middle class.[4] The author was not a German speaker and the men did not speak English.[7]

          The interviewees had the following occupations: baking, cabinetmaking, clerking at a bank, collecting of bills, police, sales, studying, tailoring, and teaching. Walter L. Dorn of the Saturday Review wrote that the interviewees were from a pro-Nazi bloc that was the “anti-labor, anti-capitalist, and anti-democratic lower middle class”.[5] The tailor had served a prison sentence for setting a synagogue on fire, but the others were never found to have actively attacked Jewish people.[5] Mayer read the official case files of each interviewee.[2]

          The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule,[8] with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people.

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        The political climate in America is deeply imbalanced. Right-wing violence is so common because it is tacitly or openly sanctioned by the state—it aligns with existing power structures. This is why, historically, regular Germans didn’t rise up against the early Nazi movement: the violence was coming from those the state favored. When left-wing groups try to mimic these tactics—like impersonating secret police or kidnapping elites—they invite swift and deadly repression. The government does not treat both sides equally. One is shielded; the other is crushed.