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    I love the implication. “Well I am a pretty inattentive parent so I guess it’s possible she’s doing all these drugs, maybe I’ve not been paying attention to all of the very obvious signs”.

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      You could just do a tiny amount of each. Enough to fail the test, but not enough to actually get high.

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      You would think drug education would teach people about drugs so they wouldn’t make mistakes like this. Instead they teach it so people make mistakes exactly like this.

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        Personally, the anti drug campaign that I had in elementary school made me more curious about drugs than anything else.

        Though, knowing what I now know about the war on drugs, that could have been deliberate.

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          I was always promised in school that drug dealers were going to give me free drugs. I was assured that this would happen.

          Never bloody happened. Liars.

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            My school must have really had to stretch for their “bad example” because it was an alcoholic whose horror story was having to ride the bus to boot camp with a nasty hangover, including puking out the window, and how loud the gunshots were at the shooting range. Sure, it didn’t sound fun, but it also didn’t sound that bad to feel sick for a bit and his real problem was signing up for the military (which tbf might have also happened when he was drunk and might have been the point of the story that went over my young head). Hangovers mostly sound bad to people who have experienced hangovers before.

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              If you’ve ever had a migraine then a hangover is nothing. No hangover can ever be bad enough that thinking your own name hurts.

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          When I was a kid, I had a relative with a big booth at the NY State Fair, so we hung out at the fair a lot, and explored every inch of it.

          One of the most fascinating things for me was the State Troopers’ display of drugs. They were all lined up on a board, behind glass, labeled so I could identify them accurately. There was even a joint, and I wondered if it was real. I would check it out often, and every year I’d come back to examine it.

          As an adult, I realized that it had the exact opposite effect it was supposed to have. It only made the drugs look more enticing.

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    Your country is in dire straights when schools are doing mandatory drug testing of their students.

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      The US does basically no regulation on “troubled teen” schools. Parents can sign a contract with a school which allows staff to physically assault their kids. There is no recourse. (Fun story - trying to get the state to address sexual abuse at one of these schools can net you a restraining order 😊)

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        A parent can sign a paper voiding the rights for their child?

        Parents can sign a contract with a school which allows staff to physically assault their kids.

        How can this be legal, even with a paper with a name on it?

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          Children in the US are basically the property of their parents.

          Parents can deny their children an education (essentially unsupervised homeschool is entirely legal in many states), refuse to vaccinate, refuse medical treatment, etc.

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          Closest we had in public school in Kentucky was a form sent home at the beginning of each year that your parents would sign, stating whether or not the school was allowed to use “corporal punishment” (aka spanking or paddling) on you.

          But yeah, parents in some (all?) states in the USA have wide latitude over their kids in ways I don’t agree with.

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            The worst that I ever had to put up with was a teacher that liked it through pieces of chalk its people who were talking in class, and he aimed to miss.

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        Can confirm at least the one I know about they’d literally do a running tackle on you and put you in a headlock. Mind you these were middle schoolers some with actual mental issues.

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      Late 90s, early 00s, my school didn’t even have security. Two pupils were in charge of keeping track who came to the school and would direct visitors. Some teachers would send them to the nearby store to pick up their groceries. It was on rotation and they didn’t attend classes that day. The word “drug” was associated with medicine. We used slippers to hit each other with. What a different world, now that I think about it.

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          Im about the same age. We got a student resource officer my sophomore year. That was after a football player KOed the Vice principal. BUT he knocked him out because he was punching an honor role student in the face. Over wearing a hat.

          The SRO was not there to be a disciplinarian or to ‘police children’ as he called it. In his orientation meeting, he said he was there so ‘if there are no football players to punch out an administrator gone berserk, students could come find him to do it.’

          To his credit, he spent his time being an actual resource for students, like domestic issues at home, etc. He helped one of my friends on her path to becoming an emancipated minor, and helped another one get into a rehab program and vouched for him in court and kept him out of ‘the system’

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          I graduated in 04 but went to a lot of different schools, and one of the bigger ones had metal detectors and sometimes a violent (edit: hahaha violent was supposed to be “cop”, what a wild autocorrect from my fat fingered misspelling!) but was also built using prison blueprints so it was very easy to secure that way (one main door and two side doors that stayed locked most of the time), but the smaller schools had nothing, as it would have cost a lot more to set up there and they didn’t have the budget (multiple entryways, many ground floor windows, etc.).

          It also probably depends on the region.

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            I went to a colege with 2 main dorms; one modeled after a prison, the other after a looney bin.

            The prison one had halls that connected through bathrooms on each end. The looney bin ones were towers all connected in the basement, with a long and a short side to each floor.

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      When I was I school, they did random drug tests for those on sports teams. This is considered legal, since the participation on a team is voluntary

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        Yeah this is something I would bring up at every formal occasion. Birthdays, Weddings, Eulogies.

        You would also be a good defence if you ever did want to start doing drugs, mother we’ve been through this before.

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      From another comment: Pinnacle is a school for troubled teens that does drug testing.

      For other scenarios: Some states require students to go through drug testing or might have mandatory random drug testing requirements to play sports. When I wrestled in high school we were drug tested once at the start of the season, then we were also hydration tested to make sure we weren’t cutting weight severely.

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      If a kid tested positive for every drug I’m not sure they’d be able to tell them they were negative…

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    Actually good parents. They do not blindly disregard negative things about their child AND they admit to be wrong AND apologize for it too!

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      I have mixed feelings, though I agree they owned up to their error, which is more important than being perfect, so they are good parents.

      But…if someone was positive for every drug tested for, and there was no sign of it in their behavior, I would probably want to check the test since that seems like an error. Like if I peed in a cup at a doctor’s office and they found me with traces of every disease, they’d have me come in to piss in another cup since error would be waay more likely.

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        They are only testing for a few standard drugs and there are enough people that really do all of those. My friend died from this shit, we did not know that he also did hard stuff.

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          Basically nobody is still doing barbiturates, that alone is a red flag that the test was fucked

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          I’m sorry you had to experience that. I lost a friend in the same situation - only his college roommates knew that he was using hard drugs, he kept it secret from all the rest of us. It made for quite a shock when cocaine stopped his heart at age 22.

          I just wanted to provide some sympathy, a virtual hug, if you will. It’s been 14 years since that friend passed, and I still think about him a lot. I hope you’re doing all right.

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            I/we are okay, it was a year ago. We recently all met again, we know each other through him. We as in a group of friends. He never asked for help sadly.

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              Do keep in touch with those friends, if you’re able. Over the years, our group realized that the friend we lost was the tie that held us together. I hope someday to see some of our mutual friends again, but between diverse personalities and life paths over the past decade or so, I don’t have high hopes for a reunion.

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      Actually good parents would be asking the school why the fuck they’re drug testing the kid in the first place.

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      As a parent this was kinda like I was thinking. Parents are just everyday humans trying to do what’s right and we don’t always succeed.

      Good on these folks. Plus it’s actually a pretty funny story.

      But why a school is doing a random drug test especially if they aren’t even qualified to read the results is a different story…

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      Sounds more like parents with trust issues in this case ngl. Like if some stranger knocked on their door and accused child of murdering 12 people parents would probably accept to be witness in court.

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      Mostly piano. Used to play in an orchestra at school but that was ooooooooooooooooh so long ago (back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, relatively speaking).

      And due to a surgery mishap (which is not as bad as it sounds now that I say it like that) I don’t play piano as often as I used to.