I’ll try to dial back my time on lemmy because I’ve noticed that I spend way, way more time here than I ever did back on reddit
More time than new reddit, less time than old reddit.
I was pretty active in comments for the first 8 years or something. Had a post or two hit front page.
No dinosaurs bringing up Digg?
Frankly there isn’t as much content. So, no.
But if I’m really honest it’s about equal because all the content is on bluesky and tiktok.
No, the smaller userbase means there aren’t niche communities for my specific interests like games nobody but me like.
I still like Lemmy but those specific connunites I can miss. I completely abandoned Reddit in the APIocalypse anyway
The Sweden board was pretty good too, and there’s no where near similar engagement here.
And I do not have the time, engagement or mental fortitude to make these communities, that would be dead, myself. To be honest I don’t really understand exactly how Lemmy and the Fediverse works - but I think to bring in more people that can’t be expected of users either.
Yes.
I have an app on my phone for usage limits, and for social media I have that set for 1 hour. I rarely hit the limit nowadays, but Lemmy is more than capable of taking up that time unless I have a super specific question in a niche hobby
The time I spent on Reddit was pretty close to zero, except on rare occasions. I used to spend more time on Lemmy, but over the past year, I feel like the vibe has changed and I haven’t been enjoying it as much.
I ditched read it when they broke the API haven’t been back since. I spend the same amount of time that I used to spend on Reddit on here maybe less as there is less content.
Less content, but less toxic too
I’ve found it’s less toxic if you agree with everyone
But if you were to log into Lemmy as a conservative or pro capitalist I think the toxicity would ratchet up instantly, even if you tried to discuss in “good faith”
I’ve found myself on the “Let me evaluate this as objectively as possible and still I usually end up pretty left of center” camp, and yet I’m definitely not immune to it.
I’ve had a few run-ins, like one where I tried to de-escalate and respectfully critique a thread that was basically (smugly?) a “death to anyone who looks like they might resemble the other team” jihad , and boy, oh boy the hivemind got stirred.
It’s gotten so bad that merely suggesting temperance and moral consideration brands you a filthy both-siding liberal nazi-enabler or something.
I believe a successful resistance includes restraining unhinged extremists that would stab their fellows in the back for not being extreme enough, but some segments of Lemmy won’t hear it.
I also think that even if you were a “filthy both-siding liberal nazi-enabler” the only way to convince anyone of anything is to convince them. Violence and hateful rhetoric has never convinced a single human, except by coercion and fear. And a Nazi living in fear is still a Nazi.
I want to rid the world of extremist and hateful views by convincing them that their viewpoints are incorrect, not stifling them into hibernation.
I agree with you 🙃
I guess we’re in our own echoes chamber
I dunno. Lemmy.ml is pretty toxic too.
not as bad as reddit, where every discussion often involves some form of trolling propaganda, that is hard to control.
Block and move one, luckily most aggregate in one place.
Same here, I think. I spend less time here, but time spent is of more quality.
Same here too. I only ever checkit for niche communities and sometimes not even that.
I try to because I want to support the FediVerse
Same. But honestly reddit was more fun than here.
I’m stuck here & loyal now. Because am irreversibly permabanned from Reddit.
Let’s make Lemmy fun.
Most of the “fun” on reddit was fake because 85% of all posts & users are bots.
So Lemmy is a breath of fresh air from all that mental manipulation.
Same! Wild how they went from throwaway accounts being part of the culture to banning people forever and employing techniques beyond what Facebook does to control accounts.
I’m pretty sure they ban anyone who says anything remotely human, and only bots are allowed on Reddit anymore.
Yes, I realized there was/is a lot of rage-bait on reddit that kept me typing. Lemmy is more chill, like it’s an actual forum with real people with real engagement.
Lemmy is 1000x more real than reddit, but I have found it to be very susceptible to echo chambers. I agree with a lot of the echos in the chamber, and yet I find a lot of people taking nuance out of discussions or believing falsehoods from headlines alone. It’s annoying to me, because many if these topics are extreme enough as is, there’s no need to hyperbolize. But there is not a lot in the way of difering opinions (when it comes to big topics)
I think any place with moderation is going to have an echo chamber. And then ironic thing is a place without moderation also leads to an echo chamber, since people who don’t like the vibe leave.
I try to link to articles or cite something when making bigger statements for that reason. But ofc you can’t please everyone.
Like early Reddit, when we migrated from Digg
Some of us skipped Digg and came straight from SomethingAwful.
like it’s an actual forum with real people with real engagement.
Because it’s small.
The only bots are from people hobby botting to learn about. If it grows then we’ll see intentional bots like anywhere else.
Federation gives unique challenges tho. A big open instance will have a huge bot problem because of how many instances could host the bots. A locked down instance won’t see any bots.
Yes.
On Reddit I had two specific groups i visited and thats it.
Here I tend to browse and read ALL, as there’s not enough traffic in the grouos I am interested in.
Nope. Making Reddit as mildly addictive as it was likely took more than just a generic application of the type.
In that way, Lemmy’s development motivations make this platform (IMO) a lot healthier, because it wasn’t purposefully tweaked into something addictive by a group of sociopaths holding boring dystopia meetings looking to appease the shareholders or the ownership.
Lemmy is really growing on me as I can see there’s discussion when it comes to the current events, I like to read real opinions and viewpoints on from others outside of my bubble, reddit and X both are too bot riddled for me to personally for that use. I still do go on reddit often for local content as it’s a better source of upcoming events and whats going on around the city than the actual local news agencies.
I read comment sections to the end on lemmy, which I haven’t done on reddit in probably a decade
Because there are fewer comments? Or because they’re more worthwhile?
For me it’s because I’m not reading the same top comment on virtually every post. I used to always skip top comment because it was just a copied comment to a repost, but eventually it got so silly I had to read halfway down to get any original thoughts. Now that we’re in a world where there’s so much bot generated content and it isn’t affecting lemmy in largely the same way as the other social media platforms, it’s even more apparent.
To the other repliers point, contrarian commentary isn’t censored as heavily and power tripping mods to get named and shamed from what I’ve seen from my perspective - that said I am a heavy reader instead of commentator so I have my own set of biases.
yes
lemmy def lacks mutli paragraph comments threads. more than two sentences here is a long comment.
i liked reading thought out ideas and opinions. very few threads i’ve seen here have those. and often they are downvoted because they are not supporting the lemmy default viewpoints… which are mostly of the soundbite length.
that said, people aren’t getting banned for those comments like they would on reddit. and i’m not getting banned for replying to them.
No, there’s way less stuff to engage with and frankly I don’t particularly even like it here.
What don’t you like about it? Not enough content or the politics?
I guess it’s not a Lemmy-specific issue but more of a social media thing in general. I just don’t like being around angry people - even when their anger is aimed at people I don’t like either. It’s the cynicism, the wishing harm, the celebrating death or misfortune. I get where it comes from - I just don’t want to be around it. It poisons my mind too.
What can I say, I’m also here for the memes. But otherwise…I don’t blame you.
I like knowing what’s going on , especially when corpo news sources try to sweep it under the rug, and sometimes comments can be really insightful, but often the discourse is so tribalistically rage-blinded and the line of acceptable extremes keeps getting pushed to frightening degree.
Even the slightest hint of disagreement with the extent of said extremes, even if you’re on the same “side” of an issue, will get you branded and told to face the wall with the rest of the filth…You know, by the types who most loudly proclaim how much they’re against fascists .
(My guess is mostly it’s angy isolated teens with anonymity and hair-trigger emotions paired with drooping history grades. And I say this as an idealistic anarchist lol. But it still hurts. Words are words.)
I was recently downvoted like crazy and attacked quite viciously for merely suggesting that dehumanizing human beings, even enemies, is a dark path. Even the poster I was responding to was like “That’s messed up, you were respectfully discussing. People are crazy.”
I’m more careful now.
It’s beginning to remind me of the apocalyptic world of Metro 2033: On one side, Neo-Nazis want to kill you outright. On the other: the Red army wants to
conscriptcomrade you to their frontlines to hurl at their enemies.…and most people are just caught in the middle trying to survive.
Sorry for the long reply. Let’s stay safe, sane, and keep touching grass. Take good care out there. ❤️
Thanks for the thoughtful response - the timing was impeccable. I guess it’s not all bad in here after all.
I’m sincerely glad you appreciated it. I worry I ramble a bit too much sometimes! :)
In some ways Lemmy can still feel like the “Old Internet”, for better and worse haha, but there’s still people like us that appreciate small moments of genuine connection with people.
We can be revolutionaries by making those positive connections in the communities we visit. :D
I hope you’re doing okay and have a good one today.
I spend more time engaging on Lemmy, but I consumed more content on reddit
Not really, I stop in and chat a bit on posts I find interesting. On Reddit I doomscrolled.
