• Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    You know Europe is like, five steps behind the US, right? The “we’re still not legally allowed to call ourselves Nazi” party is winning in Germany, the continent keeps trying to make privacy illegal, and I’m pretty sure Italy already is fascist again.

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      3 days ago

      And yet that is still miles away from whatever is happening in the US. You are aware of that, right?

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        3 days ago

        I assume that’s what he meant with the “five steps behind”. As in, not worse, but heading the same direction.

        I am an European, but I have to digress he kind of has a point (even though it was unnecesiarly condescending). It’s definitely nowhere near as bad as in the US, and I think our political systems are a little bit more resistant to it than in the US, but alt-right rhetorics and parties are picking up way faster than I’d like.

        I mean, Slovakia is a recent and pretty terryfiing example.

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      3 days ago

      Which means we still have five chances to change course before ending up where the US is?

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      I’ll take the easy bait.
      Are you saying EU is five steps behind the USA in terms of privacy and other social protections? I thought it was the opposite, there’s already a far right wannabe king in the USA, weak privacy laws and weak social system that keeps getting dismantled by the current government.
      Let me know why you think the opposite.

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          I see, well then it remains five steps better so far and there are not many better alternatives.

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            3 days ago

            Well sir, abandon your homeland if you must rather than stay and fight. But know this: I’ve never implemented a temporary solution I didn’t come to regret.

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              3 days ago

              You can abandon it temporarily to learn different ways and bring this experience back to better contribute to your country later. Sometimes it’s a matter of danger for your life and relatives too, if your group is getting targeted by the regime.

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      3 days ago

      Don’t known why you’re being down voted. Things are bad in Europe. Economy is bad, xenophobia and extremism, cost of living. In a few countries there’s already crackdowns on freedom of speech. On top of that there’s crazy tensions with Russia.

      Its true that culture is great and quality of life is very good if you can afford it but that’s getting out of reach for more and more people.

      US has way more advantages. Better to fight to keep your system and make it work.

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        I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but almost every bad thing you mentioned for Europe also applies to the US, and in some cases even in more extreme ways. The only one that doesn’t apply is the tensions with Russia because all Putin needs to do it talk some sweet talk and Trump with kiss his feet.

        What’s the other person is saying is “Don’t go living in that dumpster, it smells. Stay here in my dumpster that also smells but is also on fire.” It fucking sucks everywhere but I’m not going to fault anyone for wanting to get away from the fascist hellscape that is the US.