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    Any candidate that says this outloud would very likely fall out of the nearest window.

    The republicans know they are guitly, they know they should be in jail. They will do ANYTHING to stay in power and out of jail.

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      And the Democrats have to commit to doing anything it takes to get the MAGA traitors out.

      Look what it took to dislodge the Nazis. If we go too long, and the MAGA Nazis get their riots in too deep, that’s what it’s going to take to liberate America from them.

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      Candidates can still signal their intentions in other ways. It doesn’t have to be out loud per se.

      The main concern I have—and if she’s going to give it a shot, give it a shot, I say—is that she won’t have the fire or aura necessary in her rhetoric to capture the anger the of the American left. I would love to be proven wrong, though. I’d certainly trust her more than that fuckin snake Gavin Newsom.

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        When she speaks, I feel her intelligence, commitment, strength, and FIRE. She NEVER backs down from a fight, and she always has a withering comeback to MAGA insults.

        The more people see and hear her, the more people are going to live her. I’d love to see her in a presidential debate with Trump, or any other MAGA.

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          Didn’t she back down from Nancy Pelosi over the Gaza dome stuff?

          The fire I’m talking about needs to burn away the establishment rot in the Democrat party. It cannot be afraid to criticize Merrick Garland for failing to prosecute Trump because it might make the party look bad.

          The party has a reputation for doing nothing. This fire cannot promise nothing; people will see through it right away.

          I don’t remember the content of the speech, but I do remember that during the last national convention, AOC did rouse the crowd better than pretty much anyone else there. I’m not saying she can’t be the one. I am saying there’s got to be a hell of a lot more than a Fighting Oligarchy tour that fails to really accomplish anything.

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            It takes steps to create the political environment to be successful. The first step was hitching her star to the most popular Senator in America, and having him officially pass the torch to her in front audiences all over America. In Progressive World, he has officially annointed her as his successor.

            There are many more steps, including fighting the new DNC notion that a woman can’t win. Kamala DID win, they just cheated (STOP! Yes they did, and we all know it. Of course they did, it’s who they are).

            The DNC is saying this because they know who the real female threat is, and they are still in their anti-progressive stage. If Kamala announced her intention to run, and had a valid (to them) campaign strategy, they’d back her in a heartbeat. A lot of them still believe that her loss was because of a lack of campaigning. I think that was a strength. She popped in near the end, a gush of fresh air in an extremely stale, funky political environment, and instantly energized the campaign. That gave her great momentum going into Election Day. Remember all those enthusiastic arena rally crowds, compared to Trump’s half-filled high school gymnasiums, with the audience streaming out halfway through?

            She ran a strong, credible campaign, it was just stolen in the swing states by switching millions of Kamala votes to Trump. That’s why there’s the fairy tale of all those voters who voted a straight Dem ticket, with Trump at the top. Funny thing, those sorts of ballots are almost all in the swing states, nowhere else. Another funny thing - has anybody ever spoken to ONE of these millions of Democratic Trump voters? I’m sure there are few, but they are as rare white squirrels. I’ve never met or heard from one.

            An extended campaign would only reveal Kamala as just another weak-ass establishment Dem. She could never match AOC’s exuberance and youthfulness.

            And AOC will show up with proposals. Changes to our system that will benefit everyone, not just the wealthy donors that the old guard in BOTH parties kisses up to. Kamala’s same old boring Republican-Lite strategy will just get a MAGA elected.

            Eh, who am I kidding? Were never going to have a fair election again, if we ever even have an election at all.

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              Okay, well, I’m waiting for those steps to be carried out then. We can’t really talk about her extreme viability until they have.

              I’m going to skip over the Kamala stuff because you say this later:

              An extended campaign would only reveal Kamala as just another weak-ass establishment Dem.

              Which I agree with. This is the reason she was not a strong candidate.

              Was she the best we could have done under the circumstances? Well, we didn’t get a primary, so who knows. The past is the past, I suppose.

              I am worried that you are drinking the koolaid a little bit. Kamala did lose. Nobody cares about policy. AOC’s proposals should be violent retribution against the leeches sucking the life out of the USA. Trump is successful, in part, because he pretends to be anti-establishment. The DNC’s official position is to never criticize any prominent figure they’ve ever had.

              I agree that AOC can energize people. What I’m asking is if she has the dominant aura necessary to crack the whip.

              I ask, partly because having the will to mobilize our system into actually doing something is a prerequisite now to being successful, and partly because this ping-ponging between the Dems and the Republicans will burn the country down. We need like a new cultural revolution. It should be as offensive to be a Republican now as it was to be a Nazi in the 1940s. American individualism and apathy must be crushed under heel. Anything less than this is basically a slow death. A pyrrhic victory as we lose global significance.

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        1 day ago

        I dont think our champion has emerged yet. Someone will be catapulted forward, maybe even by luck.