• IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Corbyn’s interview a few weeks ago called out vilifying of Trans folk and made clear they should feel safe from discrimination to live their lives.

    Yes there is one MP that has slightly different views but still made clear there should be safe spaces. Let’s not make perfect be the enemy of good as I don’t think any party has every MP with the same view on trans people and all issues close to our heart. I’m pretty confident Your Party will have a progressive view on Trans rights.

    Politics is like bus routes. You’ll never find anything that goes exactly to your door, so you pick the one that gets you closest so you can walk the rest of the way.

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      11 hours ago

      To extend your analogy.

      Corbin is promising to run a bus route that will maybe go in the vague approximate direction of where you live. But for some reason it’s refusing to publish a route map.

      Until they have their conference they haven’t set out any kind of road map.

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        But for some reason it’s refusing to publish

        The reason is pretty darn clear and well documented.

        To ensure the overtaking of the party by workers and leadership. The way labour was. Is impossible.

        Equality including trans is part of the proposed founding. The roadmap to that founding process was sent out to supporters yesterday. And is expected to be complete by mid Nov.

        Official website and most of the forums openly opposed and ban anti trans members. I say most. I’ve not found any that don’t. Only a few vocal idiots complaining about bans on social media. But it’s the internet. I’m sure these sad trolls gather somewhere. Nothing official agrees with or tollerats them.

        Your repeated failure to understand how important membership authority is to a huge % of left wing supporters. And the processes required to make that happen. In no way backs up your accusations. And so far you have nothing else to support your claims. Your single MP example is (as all are until local members vote). An independent MP expressing his personal views. Not a party representative in any way.

        The founding proposal is clear. Only local party affiliations will have any right to appoint MPs. Leadership will not be allowed to parachute supporting MPs into constituencies as Labour and the Tories do.

        Yet you use the very process and time nessesery to support that. As some form of evidence the party fails to stand up to your ideals. It fails provide the proof you think it dose.

      • IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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        9 hours ago

        Yes, because he’s a democrat. He can hardly set out positions without agreement.

        He’ll not open the bus route without consulting the people to see if that is the optimal route, or seeing that there are enough drivers available to cover the routes.

        The funny thing is, people blast Keir for being an autocrat and not listening to folk and then unironically bash a democratic approach because they’re hoping for someone to tell them what to do.