I don’t know man… Why does having any historical context help to discuss the biggest conflict in middle east? Are you under the impression the genocide started on Oct 7?
what are you even talking about? “the meaning of the western wall” has no bearing on the reality of the genocide, not the morality of it. this is not a religious project. it’s a settler colonial project. you don’t even need to know what religion they are part of, let alone what some fucking magic wall is supposed to “mean”. here’s what it means: nothing. none of this shit is for or because of the wall.
You can downplay it all you want, which is weird, but it is a central element to the Jewish claim for the right to return. You know, the reason the Zionists are there in the first place. But hey, listen, if you like superficial slop rage farming content you do you. Hey, btw did you know genocide bad? Kony 2012!
the reason Zionists are there is not because of that. again, this is not a religious project, it’s a settler colonial one. all of that is bullshit justifications.
by the way even if it weren’t it still wouldn’t matter one fucking bit for one to form an opinion on the genocide, or apartheid state, or settler colonialism because the so-called reasoning doesn’t fucking matter. i don’t understand why you’re talking as if in certain nuanced situations maybe genocide would be justified. maybe apartheid would be ok. if only you knew the religious reasons maybe you’d understand that ethnic cleansing is not bad, actually…
the way you talk about this makes me pretty sure you’re a crypto zionist trying to downplay criticisms of Israel. well kindly fuck off with all that.
I see the ad hominem attacks and labeling already coming out. No, I’m not a crypto zionist. I just know how to have a conversation that’s more in depth than whatever slop you’re used to haha.
it’s not more in depth. literally nothing in the so-called justification is there anything to mitigate the crimes of Israel. its entire existence is categorically wrong and immoral.
None of this has anything to do with the topic of justification. That’s something you attached to the discussion. No genocide can ever be justified. I hope we can agree on that? Are you not capable of holding more than one thought at a time?
you said Hasan didn’t know the meaning of some magic sparkle wall as a criticism of his stance on the genocide. i said who gives a shit about the fucking wall, the Israel project has never been about the wall, and more importantly it has no bearing on one’s opinions on genocide. your criticism is stupid and irrelevant. talking about the material conditions of an issue does not require being versed in its mythology as well. you don’t criticize someone who reports on scientific discoveries in space by saying they don’t know enough about astrology.
i don’t remember saying i don’t know what the fucking wall is. i said how is it fucking relevant to forming a fucking opinion on the fucking genocide.
I don’t know man… Why does having any historical context help to discuss the biggest conflict in middle east? Are you under the impression the genocide started on Oct 7?
what are you even talking about? “the meaning of the western wall” has no bearing on the reality of the genocide, not the morality of it. this is not a religious project. it’s a settler colonial project. you don’t even need to know what religion they are part of, let alone what some fucking magic wall is supposed to “mean”. here’s what it means: nothing. none of this shit is for or because of the wall.
You can downplay it all you want, which is weird, but it is a central element to the Jewish claim for the right to return. You know, the reason the Zionists are there in the first place. But hey, listen, if you like superficial slop rage farming content you do you. Hey, btw did you know genocide bad? Kony 2012!
the reason Zionists are there is not because of that. again, this is not a religious project, it’s a settler colonial one. all of that is bullshit justifications.
by the way even if it weren’t it still wouldn’t matter one fucking bit for one to form an opinion on the genocide, or apartheid state, or settler colonialism because the so-called reasoning doesn’t fucking matter. i don’t understand why you’re talking as if in certain nuanced situations maybe genocide would be justified. maybe apartheid would be ok. if only you knew the religious reasons maybe you’d understand that ethnic cleansing is not bad, actually…
the way you talk about this makes me pretty sure you’re a crypto zionist trying to downplay criticisms of Israel. well kindly fuck off with all that.
Why did the zionists pick that spot?
I see the ad hominem attacks and labeling already coming out. No, I’m not a crypto zionist. I just know how to have a conversation that’s more in depth than whatever slop you’re used to haha.
Ancestral claims is s lot more used as a justification then religious claims.
Zionists has considered many other places too, see even you don’t know all the “basics”
What are those ancestral claims based on?
The multiple jewish kingdoms that was funded there.
it’s not more in depth. literally nothing in the so-called justification is there anything to mitigate the crimes of Israel. its entire existence is categorically wrong and immoral.
None of this has anything to do with the topic of justification. That’s something you attached to the discussion. No genocide can ever be justified. I hope we can agree on that? Are you not capable of holding more than one thought at a time?
you said Hasan didn’t know the meaning of some magic sparkle wall as a criticism of his stance on the genocide. i said who gives a shit about the fucking wall, the Israel project has never been about the wall, and more importantly it has no bearing on one’s opinions on genocide. your criticism is stupid and irrelevant. talking about the material conditions of an issue does not require being versed in its mythology as well. you don’t criticize someone who reports on scientific discoveries in space by saying they don’t know enough about astrology.