I don’t need justification for your glint of truth. I need justification that nothing in the linked interview of Hassan is worth reading or listening to because he’s nothing more than an outrage farm.
I actually listened to the interview. He said several things that so few people in mainstream media are willing to say, and he criticized mainstream media for not saying those things.
Kirk advocated for gross positions. He literally stated that empathy was invented by the left. In response to the shooting, right wing politicians and pundits immediately called for retribution against the left just like they did when the democratic lawmaker was assassinated, and say nothing when it turns out it wasn’t a leftists killer. Trump never bothered did any honor the victim of that killing, but they lower flags this weekend for Kirk and don’t mention the school shooting that happened literally one hour later or the 45 prior shootings in 2025. They praised Kirk for valuing debate and free speech, but are now firing people and refusing to let in travelers if they posted negative opinions of Kirk. Rage bait, or reasonable things to talk about?
Yes. I’m familiar with the horrible human that is Kirk. Nothing of value was lost. He was committed to punching down everyone that wasn’t white or Christian. But one thing he was exceptionally good at is organizing.
See, the difference between Kirk and Hassan is that Kirk was so successful at rallying right wing youth that they showed up in droves to the polls, especially in this election. We gotta appreciate the ability to mobilize so effectively.
The only thing Hassan seems capable of is shitting on EVERYONE. Because Hassan is not solutions oriented. He is not particularly motivated at building a political movement or accomplishing anything apart from a charity drive once in a while. That’s it. He spends 80% of his stream chastising democrats. Then rallying his base day after day about Gaza but not looking towards any meaningful prescriptions. Just the other week he streamed an interview of a man who lost his son in the Nova music festival. Despite losing his child this man was calling for a ceasefire. He wasn’t a settler. He wasn’t IDF. He wants peace. The best we can get out of Hassan? He calls him Nazi scum.
I could go on about the ineffective and meaningless content that is Hassan, but at the end of the day, it’s just superficial. And I think that’s the part that bothers me the most. He has such a massive platform and all he can do is read Twitter headlines and rage bait seven days a week. For what?
The only thing Hassan seems capable of is shitting on EVERYONE.
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He spends 80% of his stream chastising democrats.
Ah, there it is. So you want someone on the left (the actual left) to pretend like the majority of the Democratic party and it’s leadership isn’t ineffective and feckless. You’d rather blame the left for pointing it out and call their criticism worthless rage bait.
He has such a massive platform and all he can do is read Twitter headlines and rage bait seven days a week. For what?
Here we go again. The dude streams for how many hours a day, how many dayss a week, and you expect him to deliver high quality content the entire time… to modern Internet audiences…?
Like I said, I’m not a fan. I’ve seen a few interviews and debates he participated in. A few referenced clips of note. I remember the clips had a lot of bullshit. Inside jokes with chat, immature shit, or references to things only constantly online people would get, at least I assume. I’m aware enough to know modern shock humor and genuinely offensive comments are separated by a fine line within internet culture.
Just the other week he streamed an interview of a man who lost his son in the Nova music festival. Despite losing his child this man was calling for a ceasefire. He wasn’t a settler. He wasn’t IDF. He wants peace. The best we can get out of Hassan? He calls him Nazi scum.
Ok. He watched and interview with this person? I have no context so I can’t really comment beyond the polls coming out of Israel disturb and scare the shit out of me. Just because you are a victim of a tragedy, and aren’t a member of groups openly commiting crimes against humanity in Israel, you aren’t immediately a good person. Supporting Bibi at this point is enough to make you a pretty horrible human being.
Engage with what I wrote instead of strawmans. I’m aware of the polls coming out of Israel. But here was one individual not aligned with that poll. So you’re point is moot.
I don’t want him to do anything for the democratic party. That’s not what I said. I compared effectiveness. One (Kirk) dsepite being a vile person, accomplished something. Hassan, despite being vile and narcissistic, can’t seem to do much but read Twitter headlines all day.
Were not having a conversation because you seem incapable of engaging with my points.
Go watch his stream. In ten years, it will be the same garbage in garbage out, and nothing will be gained or accomplished.
You made a claim. This is the problem with engaging with comments like yours. I’d have to hunt down whatever you are talking about and waste how much time watching it? Then I might have to do more researching in order to just verify that it happened the way you claim, or the way some summary video portrayed it, and that you yourself did enough research on the guy.
Fucking give me something other than assertions about his personality and motivations, or suggest I would agree if I make watching his stream a full time job.
I don’t want him to do anything for the democratic party. That’s not what I said. I compared effectiveness. One (Kirk) dsepite being a vile person, accomplished something. Hassan, despite being vile and narcissistic, can’t seem to do much but read Twitter headlines all day.
Did you check to make sure your results were statistically significant or was it just vibes and who won the last election? Effectiveness at what? More importantly how the fuck does this support dismissing what was said in this interview? You know, the comment that I originally responded to?
Were not having a conversation because you seem incapable of engaging with my points…
Go watch his stream
Alright, I checked. He streams ~7 hours a day, ~7 days a week. No thanks. You don’t get to assign me that kind bullshit work in order to justify my opinion that your opinion isn’t justified. You gave me one link to an hour long summary of one dude allegedly watching Hassan for a week (which I doubt they actually did ~49 hours of watching for). This was to support your claim that he didn’t know the importance of a location within Israel and felt that it was a point of such extreme ignorance that it invalidated any of Hassan’s comments, ever, on the Israel - Palestine conflict, therefore he’s a rage baiting narcissist who’s accomplished nothing?
Were not having a conversation
We’re not. You’re making assertions and I’m telling you why assertions aren’t evidence. Then you tell me to go find support for your assertions within an extraordinariky large body of work. I feel like you are wasting my time. I suspect you are just easily offended, a Zionist upset because this guy isn’t backing ADL talking points (both of your only actual, specific references were related to Israel), or just don’t want people to pay attention to what is being said.
You know what, I’ll gladly admit I did not bring enough specific receipts and I’m talking in broad terms (although I provided plenty of examples to support my point). My comment was also not about the interview in question. I agree: “assertions are not evidence”. That’s why I brought you some examples which you discounted or simply ignored. You don’t have to watch Hasan’s stream all day to see the difference in social impact he has against the tide that is the right wing media apparatus, because at the end of the day, and this is my main claim: Hasan is not interested in outcomes (except the one that generate revenue).
The point about him not understanding the Western Wall is not central to the claim that it discounts everything he says. It’s central to the claim that his stream is superficial slop content meant to generate views. I don’t know why this is so hard to grasp. If you’ve been covering Israel / Gaza for over two years and you still don’t know what the Western Wall is…That’s weird. It tells me you have no interest in covering this beyond an extremely superficial level. It’s Kony 2012 all over again.
I am making claims that would require you to verify them by consuming his content. I’ve been familiar with his content for over five years. I don’t need to watch his stream any more. I look at the sum total of his outcomes. What has he managed to achieve politically so far? What is he doing to build the movement up? He doesn’t seem to care. Why should I?
Ah, there it is. So you want someone on the left (the actual left) to pretend like the majority of the Democratic party and it’s leadership isn’t ineffective and feckless. You’d rather blame the left for pointing it out and call their criticism worthless rage bait.
I’d be satisfied with any outcome. Even if it meant the communist party wins the 2028 elections. The key to remember is that Kirk and Shapiro and the entire media apparatus of the right gets people mobilized.
They organize. They vote.
Hasan reads Twitter headlines. If that makes you happy, then do with that what you will.
I don’t need justification for your glint of truth. I need justification that nothing in the linked interview of Hassan is worth reading or listening to because he’s nothing more than an outrage farm.
I actually listened to the interview. He said several things that so few people in mainstream media are willing to say, and he criticized mainstream media for not saying those things.
Kirk advocated for gross positions. He literally stated that empathy was invented by the left. In response to the shooting, right wing politicians and pundits immediately called for retribution against the left just like they did when the democratic lawmaker was assassinated, and say nothing when it turns out it wasn’t a leftists killer. Trump never bothered did any honor the victim of that killing, but they lower flags this weekend for Kirk and don’t mention the school shooting that happened literally one hour later or the 45 prior shootings in 2025. They praised Kirk for valuing debate and free speech, but are now firing people and refusing to let in travelers if they posted negative opinions of Kirk. Rage bait, or reasonable things to talk about?
Yes. I’m familiar with the horrible human that is Kirk. Nothing of value was lost. He was committed to punching down everyone that wasn’t white or Christian. But one thing he was exceptionally good at is organizing.
See, the difference between Kirk and Hassan is that Kirk was so successful at rallying right wing youth that they showed up in droves to the polls, especially in this election. We gotta appreciate the ability to mobilize so effectively.
The only thing Hassan seems capable of is shitting on EVERYONE. Because Hassan is not solutions oriented. He is not particularly motivated at building a political movement or accomplishing anything apart from a charity drive once in a while. That’s it. He spends 80% of his stream chastising democrats. Then rallying his base day after day about Gaza but not looking towards any meaningful prescriptions. Just the other week he streamed an interview of a man who lost his son in the Nova music festival. Despite losing his child this man was calling for a ceasefire. He wasn’t a settler. He wasn’t IDF. He wants peace. The best we can get out of Hassan? He calls him Nazi scum.
I could go on about the ineffective and meaningless content that is Hassan, but at the end of the day, it’s just superficial. And I think that’s the part that bothers me the most. He has such a massive platform and all he can do is read Twitter headlines and rage bait seven days a week. For what?
Ah, there it is. So you want someone on the left (the actual left) to pretend like the majority of the Democratic party and it’s leadership isn’t ineffective and feckless. You’d rather blame the left for pointing it out and call their criticism worthless rage bait.
Here we go again. The dude streams for how many hours a day, how many dayss a week, and you expect him to deliver high quality content the entire time… to modern Internet audiences…?
Like I said, I’m not a fan. I’ve seen a few interviews and debates he participated in. A few referenced clips of note. I remember the clips had a lot of bullshit. Inside jokes with chat, immature shit, or references to things only constantly online people would get, at least I assume. I’m aware enough to know modern shock humor and genuinely offensive comments are separated by a fine line within internet culture.
Ok. He watched and interview with this person? I have no context so I can’t really comment beyond the polls coming out of Israel disturb and scare the shit out of me. Just because you are a victim of a tragedy, and aren’t a member of groups openly commiting crimes against humanity in Israel, you aren’t immediately a good person. Supporting Bibi at this point is enough to make you a pretty horrible human being.
Engage with what I wrote instead of strawmans. I’m aware of the polls coming out of Israel. But here was one individual not aligned with that poll. So you’re point is moot.
I don’t want him to do anything for the democratic party. That’s not what I said. I compared effectiveness. One (Kirk) dsepite being a vile person, accomplished something. Hassan, despite being vile and narcissistic, can’t seem to do much but read Twitter headlines all day.
Were not having a conversation because you seem incapable of engaging with my points.
Go watch his stream. In ten years, it will be the same garbage in garbage out, and nothing will be gained or accomplished.
You made a claim. This is the problem with engaging with comments like yours. I’d have to hunt down whatever you are talking about and waste how much time watching it? Then I might have to do more researching in order to just verify that it happened the way you claim, or the way some summary video portrayed it, and that you yourself did enough research on the guy.
Fucking give me something other than assertions about his personality and motivations, or suggest I would agree if I make watching his stream a full time job.
Did you check to make sure your results were statistically significant or was it just vibes and who won the last election? Effectiveness at what? More importantly how the fuck does this support dismissing what was said in this interview? You know, the comment that I originally responded to?
Alright, I checked. He streams ~7 hours a day, ~7 days a week. No thanks. You don’t get to assign me that kind bullshit work in order to justify my opinion that your opinion isn’t justified. You gave me one link to an hour long summary of one dude allegedly watching Hassan for a week (which I doubt they actually did ~49 hours of watching for). This was to support your claim that he didn’t know the importance of a location within Israel and felt that it was a point of such extreme ignorance that it invalidated any of Hassan’s comments, ever, on the Israel - Palestine conflict, therefore he’s a rage baiting narcissist who’s accomplished nothing?
We’re not. You’re making assertions and I’m telling you why assertions aren’t evidence. Then you tell me to go find support for your assertions within an extraordinariky large body of work. I feel like you are wasting my time. I suspect you are just easily offended, a Zionist upset because this guy isn’t backing ADL talking points (both of your only actual, specific references were related to Israel), or just don’t want people to pay attention to what is being said.
You know what, I’ll gladly admit I did not bring enough specific receipts and I’m talking in broad terms (although I provided plenty of examples to support my point). My comment was also not about the interview in question. I agree: “assertions are not evidence”. That’s why I brought you some examples which you discounted or simply ignored. You don’t have to watch Hasan’s stream all day to see the difference in social impact he has against the tide that is the right wing media apparatus, because at the end of the day, and this is my main claim: Hasan is not interested in outcomes (except the one that generate revenue).
The point about him not understanding the Western Wall is not central to the claim that it discounts everything he says. It’s central to the claim that his stream is superficial slop content meant to generate views. I don’t know why this is so hard to grasp. If you’ve been covering Israel / Gaza for over two years and you still don’t know what the Western Wall is…That’s weird. It tells me you have no interest in covering this beyond an extremely superficial level. It’s Kony 2012 all over again.
I am making claims that would require you to verify them by consuming his content. I’ve been familiar with his content for over five years. I don’t need to watch his stream any more. I look at the sum total of his outcomes. What has he managed to achieve politically so far? What is he doing to build the movement up? He doesn’t seem to care. Why should I?
Every time someone hates Hasan, that’s why.
I’d be satisfied with any outcome. Even if it meant the communist party wins the 2028 elections. The key to remember is that Kirk and Shapiro and the entire media apparatus of the right gets people mobilized.
They organize. They vote.
Hasan reads Twitter headlines. If that makes you happy, then do with that what you will.