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- I can condemn violence.
- I can support free speech, even if it’s not what I like.
- I can still despise that vile piece of shit.
- I can still say he gushed hatred and misinformation.
- I can still say society is better, safer in his absence.
- I will not condone; but neither will I mourn.
Yes, this is logical. However, logic doesn’t create views, likes, clicks, or comments, so we don’t need logic. We need anger and hatred for engagement. We need perpetual algorithmic attention or the machine will fail. The children whose bodies stop the rest of the bullets are mere meat for its consumption and your logic would starve it.
He also gushed blood… fuck 'em.
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Yep, a clever mouthpiece for spreading Christian Nationalist propaganda.
well now i feel bad for deleting my comment. my client put it on the wrong thread in this post and i refused to commit the mental energy to this piece of trash human.
i actively avoided giving him mental space in life, and now i actively refuse to give him mental space in death
Nah, im not gonna condemn this. He fucked around and found out. We are at a point in the U.S. where polite discourse doesn’t get you anywhere anymore.
Once you start advocating for putting people in camps, and wanting to harm people for just existing, I stop caring about what happens to you as a person.
I find it hard to condemn this act of physical violence when Charlie Kirk was so willing to engage in acts of emotional and violence.
Although, having watched some of the things Mr Kirk said, I think the man might have had some mental health issues (dude was convinced angels and demons were influencing polotics), and I do consider myself a advocate for the mentally ill. So, in that framework I have say “This was the tragic result of a mentally ill man being miss treated by a society that does not value mental health enough”.
Mental health issues isn’t an excuse for being a piece of shit though. You can have mental health issues and also be the nicest person in the world. This guy spewed hatred and violent rhetoric everywhere he went.
Being a nazi is not a mental health issue.
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Can I condemn the murder and still be glad this piece of shit got what he deserved?
Yup. Wealthy white people are just mad that the rules of the game apply to them now as well. You’re going to treat everyone who doesn’t fit your ideology as disposable and less than? Don’t be surprised if those very same people treat you the same.
The fear of Wealthy people getting gunned down on a random Wednesday is the very same reality Black Americans have been living with their whole lives. Welcome to America, I’m so glad wealthy people could finally join us.
They didn’t shed one fucking tear for the two kids killed in Colorado on the same day. They jumped straight to murdering leftists before even knowing who the killer was.
And it turns out, the killer was ultra-MAGA.
Fuck the rich. Fuck the right. Fuck the rich right fucks.
Their risk of getting murdered is still a lot lower that for low income people.
If he were here I’m sure he would encourage us to not let politics hijack the narrative and remind us that some gun deaths are a small price to pay for 2nd amendment rights
It’s what he would have wanted.
Tbh it was a pretty poetic and well-timed murder. I didn’t think it was that hideous.
Okay, I’ll condemn political violence against fascist enablers.
When the political violence exerted by states against their or other people will also be condemned ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah we literally just had the mobster in chief order a hit on 11 random civilians in a boat. If you believe in the sanctity of human life, isn’t that 11 times as bad? Yet the media hasn’t even bothered to report their names.
No war but a class war.
The whole white washing someone after they died is the most insane thing that society has decided upon. As soon as someone is dead, society says that all their sins are forgiven and we should not speak ill of them.
When someone dies, they don’t magically stop being racist, sexist, transphobic, Nazi shit bag. Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit in life and still a piece of shit in death.
We can condemn political violence and this hideous murder
intolerance cannot be tolerated!
Ehh, I’m pretty sure I’m going to celebrate his murder, I dont care.
What, you expect me to condemn whoever killed Hitler next?
Well, since Hitler killed Hitler, yes. Not for killing himself, all the other stuff he did.
Right, I actually hate the asshole who killed Hitler.
What about all the good things Hitler did? Like killing Hitler?
Smells like a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Because you know, hate mongers stick together. In other news, looks like a white Christian 22 year old male was turned in by his church… so radical
The man actually dared anyone. He was proved wrong.
Its pretty funny that the do-nothing democrat clickbait websites like Common Dreams and Jacobin and Mother Jones are running this “we all have to cry for the nazi boy” rhetoric just because they know its good rage-click slop.
Just fuck off with this shit, idk why the kayfabe marks find this entertaining
THANKYOU. His views were vile, his behaviour was repugnant, and no doubt the world is better without him. That doesn’t mean it’s ok to kill someone because their views are awful!! I’m horrified seeing how many people think it’s ok to do this
Soo… who is disenfranchising these Nazis? Who is systematically taking away their resources? Because it looks to me like they keep getting stronger, and I don’t know what else will stop them other than fear of death.
Don’t forget, fascists ultimately want to horrifically murder anyone who doesn’t blindly obey them. So if it must be either civilized people or them… sorry Charlie, you gotta go.
Or did you want to wait and sacrifice a few dozen more innocent people so we could have yet more incontrovertible truth that fascist ideologies always lead to fascist outcomes?
Would I overwhelmingly prefer he was deplatformed for his hate, ridiculed out of every spotlight, or censured through judicial means? Absolutely. ‘Vigilante justice’ on its own is no justice at all. But if this is a trolley problem, I know for a fact where I’m putting the switch. Do you?
In case you’re not familiar: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Even he said it was OK and “worth it” if he got killed. He also said that people shouldn’t have empathy.
He literally thought empathy was a new and made up concept.
It’s worse, he didn’t think it was new. He knew it was a thing, and he was spreading the Evangelical (Christofascist) “The Sin of Empathy” rhetoric.
One example: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/the-enticing-sin-of-empathy
I hadn’t heard of that, thanks.
Regardless of what he may have actually thought this is what he publicly stated:
“I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage.”
Yeah extrajudicial execution has no place in this world! (except for when, for example, trump wants to do it to venezuelans, or something like that. then its a good thing instead of a bad thing)
It’s okay to kill Nazis. Because it’s not just views. They are spreading violent rhetoric. He spread the white replacement and white genocide bullshit. He spread COVID misinformation. He said blacks were better off before the signing of the Civil Rights act.
He was a dangerous fascist mouthpiece. And now he’s not.
Nazi lives don’t matter.
He would have been happy to kill trans people.
