President Donald Trump spoke at the Pentagon for the annual Sept. 11 event, but some of his expressions are prompting questions about his health. After large bruises appeared on Trump's hands and his legs swelled as a result of chronic venous insufficiency, observers have been hyper-focused on the p...
I saw someone mention something about his hands but that was quickly debunked. Was there anything else that proved it to be faked?
How was it debunked?
You can clearly see his pinky finger melting into his palm and then his ring finger becoming his new pinky if you play the official video on YouTube at 0.25 speed.
https://lemmy.world/post/35748353/19324281
Im not saying the whole video is fake, but there’s definitely something weird about the video
I have seen some video editors say that it’s shot morphing, a technique to seamless switch from one shot to another or to cut out filler words. I don’t think it’s good to edit shots like this where veracity is important but it’s probably real.
Maybe. If that’s true, I still say it should be called out and it shouldn’t be accepted as a practice.
Likewise, look at the damn article this post is about.
Trump today does not look like the Trump in that video. Trump, today, looks like he’s had a damn stroke.
The AI video doesn’t even look like a Trump from this week, and even if its only AI in-part, thats still extraordinarily important and not OK, and any one dismissing this as a “debunked” is normalizing something thats actually a huge fucking deal (way fucking bigger than some shit bird getting shot in the neck).
Yeah, I don’t know how people can’t realize that Trump in that video, is NOT what Trump actually looks like, even with the best makeup. He’s old and tired. When you see pictures of him dressed in casual golf attire at maralago he looks like an old fat woman who’s melting
If you speed up the video, his face is obviously fake.
When he came back after he disappeared he looked like he had a stroke. I think he’s having many mini strokes making it harder for him to disguise after each one.
I know we just recently got into a bit of tussle elsewhere, but I think I mostly agree with you here.
The uh, the ‘morph-cut’, when his hands shift and kinda melt?
Look above his head when that happens.
The lighting and shadow on the trees in the background changes.
Its all one way before that happens, and its all another way after that happens.
… I think he literally stroked out, while they were filming this, thats why the morph cut is there, and if some body wanted to try to model the scene, the oval office, geopositioned right, with the sun, they could probably estimate how long it was between these two shots they merged together… or timeskipped between.
I don’t think his face is completely fake, I think it may have some kind of… correction applied to it, to try to minimize the droopiness of … what you can see in his face today, from the 9/11 memorial.
Sorta like how and instagram filter morphs your face… and a frame stabilization effect tries to keep objects centered and just boink the frame itself around…
Something like a face stabilization effect, if that makes any sense.
I agree with all of that. I meant his mouth specifically when I said his face.We live in wild times.
Ah, yeah, just the mouth, that makes more sense.
Ever see Equilibrium?
The uh, dear leader… just straight up is a digital construction, got a fake voice and all that too?
… Too bad gun kata would never work at all in real life…
Sure. Recorded at 24fps and interpolated to 60fps. Lots of weird shit can happen with motion interpolation.
His body barely moves at all until it randomly spasms into motion every like 30 seconds. That’s not how people, especially Mr talks with his hands, communicates.
He’s dead and they turned his corpse into an animatronic puppet, but they did it poorly, like everything they do.
I’ve played a bit with frame interpretation using open source models. With those models, fast movement did seem to trigger some weird artifacts and glitches that were visible at lower speeds or paused.
I guess it’s possible that a propietary model is using some other image generation techniques to make those artifacts less noticeable. I think that would still constitute something that should be called out.
If the issue is with interpretation, then we shouldn’t see this visual glitch in the original footage.
YouTube has been doing “AI” stuff to shorts lately. It’s caused a lot of upset among the artists posting stuff as it’s changing their artwork.
That said, I’ve not seen the video in question so don’t take my comment as anything about that.
It’s morphing to hide a cut, it’s used quite often nowadays. Probably Trump fucked up a read and couldn’t be assed to do it again. Infer from that what you will.
It definitely wasn’t debunked. A justification for how it might have happened was presented but that is in no way a “debunking”.