• iglou@programming.dev
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      Protests aren’t magic things. Especially when the stakes are so high, the government isn’t going to just cave in with one protest, no matter how “productive”. They need to happen again, and again, and again, to the point where it actually inconveniences them.

      Take it from a french.

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        It won’t ever inconvenience them. Everyone would have to quit. All at once. And stop paying bills. Everyone. They couldn’t do anything about it.

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            Compare any recent French protests to the parades going on in America right now. They’re two completely different things.

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            It works in France because there’s an implication that you guys will start burning everything to the ground if the government doesn’t capitulate. The implication comes from a clear and demonstrated history of actually doing so.

            Our history of that is much less clear, especially in recent history.

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              No, it works because we actually burn shit to the ground when the government doesn’t capitulate. And that’s not an ability only french genes have.

              It’s up to you to make sure your protests have an effect.

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              Wrong. Just look at your own history…

              • Rosa Parks.
              • MLK.
              • Vietnam war protests.

              To only quote the ones off the top of my head. I’d expect an American to remember these better than me.

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                I don’t know about the Vietnam war protests, but the Civil Rights Movement was a lot more militant than do-nothing liberals would want you to believe. Look up the Black Panthers and people like Malcolm X, and even the peaceful side included real civil disobedience and obstruction. There’s no equivalence between what Americans are doing now and what MLK and crew did.

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                  The Black Panthers weren’t even formed until the greatest victories of the Civil Rights Movement had already been won, and for all of Malcolm X’s rhetoric before leaving the Nation of Islam, the threat of violence from Black Nationalists was not a core factor to the victories of the Civil Rights Movement.

                  MLK Jr. spent nearly a decade and a half building organizations and connections for nationwide resistance.

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                To only quote the ones off the top of my head. I’d expect an American to remember these better than me.

                American education in a nutshell lol (which is part of the systemic problem, and by design)