On Monday, the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to use racial profiling in its militarized immigration raids across Los Angeles, halting an injunction that had barred officers from targeting Latinos based on ethnicity. The court did not explain the reason for its shadow docket order, which appeared to split 6–3 along ideological lines. In dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor warned that the decision was “unconscionably irreconcilable with our nation’s constitutional guarantees,” opening the door to violent persecution of Latinos—including American citizens—by “masked agents with guns.” The majority did not respond to this extraordinary charge, perhaps because it is so obviously true.
It’s time to purge the Supreme Court. It’s clear that they don’t give a shIt about the law or the constitution. They are the activist judges the Republicans always whined about.
Biden could have but didn’t. Most of us here knew this was coming.
Biden could have expanded the Supreme Court but he couldn’t have purged it. It takes a 3/4 vote in the Senate to impeach a Supreme Court Justice.
I mean I think it’s time to purge the whole govt and try again. The system is clearly broken beyond repair
Yes. When the wealthy and powerful have everything and the rest have nothing the rest burn the system down and start again.
Establishment dems are not up to it even if they could win now and they cannot. We need muscular populists that can build and run a political machine, new leadership across the board.
The problem is, I believe, that a large portion of the US population likes the current cruelty and revenge based regime. They are seething with resentment at being made to feel stupid by the “intellectual elites”, backwards by the “progressives”, ignorant by the “woke”, etc and eat up the “you are right to hate those people who make you feel bad” message the christofascists are feeding them.
People are mad and know they are being screwed if not by whom. The right is misdirecting their anger, while the Democrats do not even try to direct it playing the currents the right set.
With real leadership, it would make public opinion. It would Channel the anger towards its actual sources.
By allowing these Democrats to be the opposition we have surrendered the field and waste our efforts on doomed strategies.
People want reform, if we do not give it to them, the right will.
They give them the illusion of change. They tell them that they are changing things but they’re actually taking things to their absurd extreme. We’re going to publish the democrats by selecting a theocratic autocrat is the same mistake that Turkey, Iran, and Afghanistan made. How did that turn out for them? That’s the future of the US.
We already knew continually selling the party as we are better than the other guys while constantly ratcheting to the right was not enough to win elections.
The right is offering Solutions and we know the voters do not know any better. We are not, that we is everybody not supporting the right wing.
It is not a new phenomena that voters have been seduced to the dark side and led into alternate realities. Not just the right wing either. The Democratic sheep are just as responsible for what is happening due to my effort mentioned arguments.
They knew what we were facing and they refused to change. Now the political monster they declined to stop will destroy them, if Democrats were stealing elections for decades systematically, they would have to be punished.
Any assurances they have gotten from Republican power Brokers that that is just performative mean nothing.
I predict indictments will come down this time of the year in 2027 on the Democrats for bogus election rigging charges.
It isn’t the people who refuse to change. Given understanding and choice most people would choose socialism (not the bullshit socialist boogieman sold by the rich and powerful but actual socialism) over 0.1% of people owning everything and everyone else barely surviving. The people need to tear down the system, to take back all the money that has been stolen by the 0.1% and to rebuild the society to benefit the workers, not the wealthy. I read that if wealth were distributed evenly in the US that every person would have half a million dollars of personal wealth.
People do still trust the doomed to fail establishment dems though. No pushback on annointing kamala on bad faith arguments that 4 months was not enough time. Not a single challenger.
No challenge for senate leadership, none for house as new leader was handpicked by old.
The party is broken. On the prez no one would cross the establishment, afraid of bad faith bigotry allegations of stepping over the first minority woman, nevermind she was unpopular across the board, never breaching 30 pc approval, offered no real reform, attacked no one s rewing us.
I am done trying to help these people. I want to help real leaders that can win.
So you’re supporting Trump and the fascists? They can clearly win.
No one actually feels this way naturally, this is all propaganda made up by the conservatives. False grievances combined with forty years of hate radio has taught a large part of the population to hate everyone but their supposed “in” group.
You don’t think that the red hats are seeting with resentment at being made to feel stupid by the “intellectual elites”? Why do they complain about the “intellectual elites” then? Why do they complain about the “woke” or the “progressive”? They are seething with resentment about being told that their intolerant, backwards, racist beliefs are bad. That’s why they love the cruelty. They love Trump because he’s spiteful and cruel. I watched a video where Jennie Gage, a former Mormon, white supremacist, Trumper said, “I loved Trump because he was mean.”
Let’s be clear, I am not going to blame a large portion of the population for being lied to. I listened to years of Rush Limbaugh (not willingly) so I know where their made-up grievances come from. I have watched countless hours of Fox News, I see how they spin information.
Simply put, propaganda works. They are using the best of psychological to manipulate people. Do I hate it? Yes I do.
They have indoctrinated so many people I know and loved and turned them into haters who parrot their garbage without any critical thought.
I’m not blaming them for being lied to. I’m blaming them for not doing the absolute minimum critical thinking to realize that they are being lied to. We’ve all heard the lies. Tens of millions of people listened to those lies, thought about them critically, and came to the conculsion that they were weapons grade bullshit.
Completely agree. There was a reason conservatives threw a shit fit two decades ago when high schoolers were going to be taught critical thinking skills. They fought tooth and nail to prevent it from happening.
Critical thinking skills and the skills of forming your own opinion and defending it with facts and logic should be taught in grade school. Instead most students are not introduced this until college.
Now you know why the right hates colleges so much and are so desperate to have their ideology taught as factual. They can’t have anyone using critical thinking skills otherwise their house of cards will fall down.
Completely agree.
Anyway to do this legally?
Being legal doesn’t make something right. The fascists have so stacked the system with Supreme Court and Circuit Court justices who don’t have a damn about the constitution that it would take a generation of concerted effort to correct IF they weren’t fighting tooth and nail to protect the advantage and obstruct change. The only way to really solve this problem is to burn the system down and rebuild it as what it was intended to be. Unrestricted capitalism has failed the people. It’s time for the people to tear it down and rebuildd to their advantage.
Sounds like you’re on board for the revolution right away, but it is legitimate to ask if we can fix the problems of this Supreme Court within the system we currently exist in.
I’m not sure whether some of these powers are executive or congressional, but past presidents have talked about adding more justices to the court, and I’ve also heard mention of removing lifetime appointments. I think the first is an executive power and the second is congressional? I’m also not sure how this specific situation can be dealt with now that the ruling has been made, but it sure seems like this court is disregarding precedence left and right… Sorry, I’m not a legal scholar, but I’m also interested in the answer to this question.
It will be VERY difficult to fix the Supreme Court without burning it to the ground. Trump appointed young, right wing extremists who will likely serve for 40 or 50 years. If one or more of the old conservatives retired over the next few months he will do the same thing again, likely someone who is even worse. Impeaching a Supreme Court Justice requires a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate which is stacked to favour the Republicans by the ridiculous electoral college. The chances of reforming the Supreme Court in the next lifetime are approaching zero.
Reform, true reform, will involve fixing the Supreme Court, elections, and education but also regulation, banking, and wealth inequality. The Republicans have for years obstructed when the Democrats were in power and lied and cheated and stretched the law while they were in power. It’s a one way valve. The democrats can’t do anything because of Republican obstructionism and they don’t seem to be able to stop the back sliding when they are in opposition.
I would love to see a government made up of AOCs, and Kat Abughazalehs, Zohran Mamdanis, and Jasmine Crocketts but even if you end up with a government of those people the Republicans who are left and the Republican governors will obstruct change for a generation at least.
In order to effect real change you would need at least 3/4 of the states to be solidly in Democratic hands with 2/3 of Congress in Democratic hands.
People put out these ideas, but I rarely see who or how they’d like them to be implemented. Who would you want to initiate the purge? Any democrat president fine?
I’d be fine with that. After all, as per SCOTUS it’s currently legal for presidents to do just about anything they want and be legally immune from prosecution. I assume this includes dropping traitor judges into black sites. Maybe the new SCOTUS won’t make stupid rulings like giving presidents the power of monarchs, and some reasonable laws can be (re-)enacted.
Expanding the court is the generally anticipated way to do that
There are several examples from antiquity that show that the people will solve the problem of the government doesn’t.
The vast majority of the time, the replacement ends up being worse. It’s tricky business overthrowing a government, and the ones that end up on top are usually the most bloodthirsty and least ethical.
Yes. Revolutions are almost always bloody and the result is almost always worse. The people, though, will have a taste for revolution and the second comes easier.
I assume you are pretty confident that you’ll survive the purge in-between. Too bad it won’t be true for everyone, but I’m sure that’s a sacrifice you are willing to make.
That was childish.
And these tough-guy calls for violent revolution aren’t? Please.
Sorry, I’m going to continue this conversation with the adults.
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Joking, but with organization we could wrest control from these clowns if we got real strong leadership.
If we could organize, we wouldn’t need a violent revolution.
Have no fear, organizing to oppose the establishment is quite violent. The labor movement had a lot of fights. From beating the shit out of the police in Minneapolis in the 1920s to the coal miners of Appalachia to the UAW.
That is why I think Sean Fain would be a good presidential candidate. He is willing to fight and honestly.
I thought we were talking about violently overthrowing a government, not violent protest.
Also, violence in protests is only helpful when the common perception is that the violence was instigated by the state. That’s why states use agent provocateurs to incite violence. They know it works to their advantage.
Call it what you want, the only way to improve our lot is to organize and work cooperatively on what we agree on, and that would be opposed by the state, and the oligarchs that control the state, and we would have to defend ourselves in our rights to exercise our constitutionally protected freedoms as we are allowed to by law. As the unions did when the corrupt power of the state at the behest of the bosses tried to crush their organization.
A revolution without any organization would just be an animal farm situation where the new boss would be like the old boss. And we should not want a revolution but rather a restoration. The system is generally good, the system is Dishonored and ignored.
There’s a mechanism for impeaching Supreme Court justices, which would apply to the six criminals.
Or, just ignore them and start a parallel court. If they won’t do their job, why keep listening to them?
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