On Monday, the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to use racial profiling in its militarized immigration raids across Los Angeles, halting an injunction that had barred officers from targeting Latinos based on ethnicity. The court did not explain the reason for its shadow docket order, which appeared to split 6–3 along ideological lines. In dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor warned that the decision was “unconscionably irreconcilable with our nation’s constitutional guarantees,” opening the door to violent persecution of Latinos—including American citizens—by “masked agents with guns.” The majority did not respond to this extraordinary charge, perhaps because it is so obviously true.
The vast majority of the time, the replacement ends up being worse. It’s tricky business overthrowing a government, and the ones that end up on top are usually the most bloodthirsty and least ethical.
Yes. Revolutions are almost always bloody and the result is almost always worse. The people, though, will have a taste for revolution and the second comes easier.
I assume you are pretty confident that you’ll survive the purge in-between. Too bad it won’t be true for everyone, but I’m sure that’s a sacrifice you are willing to make.
That was childish.
And these tough-guy calls for violent revolution aren’t? Please.
Sorry, I’m going to continue this conversation with the adults.
And I guess I’ll watch and learn. Standing by for what I’m sure is about to be a riveting adult discussion.
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Found george orwell’s alt account!
Joking, but with organization we could wrest control from these clowns if we got real strong leadership.
If we could organize, we wouldn’t need a violent revolution.
Have no fear, organizing to oppose the establishment is quite violent. The labor movement had a lot of fights. From beating the shit out of the police in Minneapolis in the 1920s to the coal miners of Appalachia to the UAW.
That is why I think Sean Fain would be a good presidential candidate. He is willing to fight and honestly.
I thought we were talking about violently overthrowing a government, not violent protest.
Also, violence in protests is only helpful when the common perception is that the violence was instigated by the state. That’s why states use agent provocateurs to incite violence. They know it works to their advantage.
Call it what you want, the only way to improve our lot is to organize and work cooperatively on what we agree on, and that would be opposed by the state, and the oligarchs that control the state, and we would have to defend ourselves in our rights to exercise our constitutionally protected freedoms as we are allowed to by law. As the unions did when the corrupt power of the state at the behest of the bosses tried to crush their organization.
A revolution without any organization would just be an animal farm situation where the new boss would be like the old boss. And we should not want a revolution but rather a restoration. The system is generally good, the system is Dishonored and ignored.
Oh, I’m completely on board with organizing and being prepared to defend ourselves. It’s the only way forward. All it would take is a short general strike, but we need to take into account that a whole lot of American workers like what’s going on, and even more just want to return to the same neoliberal consensus that got us here. Those fractures are the biggest problem to solve.
Americans only like what is going on because they have been misled to blame the wrong people for our decline. They trust the wrong people, we all do to different degrees, the sheep of the dem party especially.
If a strong reformer faction ran a true populist campaign, channeling anger towards it’s actual source, half of those people would join us. They want to attack the people screwing us. Without strong populist opposition to this plutocracy they will continue to be misguided.
That does not hold for evangelicals and some of the religious right perhaps they are fucked in the head and want to see the earth drown in lakes of blood and fire for the rapture.
I’m entirely in agreement there. I’m not optimistic enough to say “half” but I think it would be enough. The suburban NIMBY types are the most difficult to reach. Those are the ones who just want to return to the neo-liberal consensus. They are just as hateful and deluded as the white supremacists, and even more bigoted in their own way.