I updated my laptop from Mint 21.3? to 22 and lost all sound. It’s when Mint switched from I think Pulse to Pipewire. The update left behind a random config file that stopped my sound device from being set up, and the only place I could find a fix was on an obscure forum post.
Hibernation and hybrid sleep are both supported by my laptop, and can be set up to work on Mint with a lot of configuration through the terminal. When I reboot though, they stop working again. The related options disappear from the power settings, but work from the terminal.
Pretending that Linux doesn’t have issues is an outright lie at this point
Pretending that Linux doesn’t have issues is an outright lie at this point
And I’m sure your comparison is done using a Linux-native device, not an originally Windows-specific device you installed Linux on? With power management specifically there’s nothing Linux distros can do to work nicely everywhere, it’s an awful clusterfuck.
The only way to fairly attribute flaws to Linux is to compare a device that waa designed and built for both. Otherwise I could blame, idk, Android for running like shit on my Wii U.
It’s a 9 year old laptop that’s had problems due to software configuration issues. This isn’t cutting edge hardware that’s not supported, it’s an update that didn’t clean up after itself, and a working power setting where the software doesn’t show the available and working options. If I run the hibernate or hybrid sleep commands from the terminal, they work, but the options don’t persist in either the start menu or the power settings gui. That’s nothing to do with it being a Windows device originally.
I like using Linux, and I’m happy using the terminal - I started with DOS, many, many years ago, and the terminal brings back happy memories. Pretending that Linux doesn’t have any problems though is ridiculous.
Fair enough, that indeed sounds like a regression (assuming your old device got officially supported hardware) and a lack of GUI settings. I 100% concur this sucks, both.
I’m still very critical when someone complains that “Linux” doesn’t work properly on a laptop. Most of the time it’s not the fault of any FOSS project, but device manufacturers doing wonky shit that requires device-specific workarounds or license nonsense making support hard to impossible. Especially power management is an issue with newer laptops (which of course doesn’t apply to you) sometimes not even properly supporting e.g. S3 standby because they expect very weird Windows-behaviour (not even standard S0 but some wonky other stuff). I see way, WAY too many “Windows vs. Linux” comparisons on Windows machines that then conclude Linux “not being ready yet” (sometimes even blaming the devs). Meanwhile FOSS developers are being utterly exploited.
No worries, it’s good to know that some people are still passionate :)
Yeah, I get what you mean though. Some people assume that Linux should be able to do everything that Windows or Mac can do, and assume that if it can’t it must be the developer’s fault. You still see the same old bullshit about ‘Linux won’t run Photoshop / my proprietary software!’ without stopping to think that maybe it’s the developer of that software who’s at fault.
It’s been going on for years, and is still infuriating…
Blah blah blah. The world isn’t fair. You don’t get to hand wave away MAJOR issues because they are hard.
“Oh it’ll be ready to switch, just research buy loads of specific equipment next time you buy a computer. I’m SURE you’ll find a nice Dell that’ll be exactly what you need and not a compromise 🙄”
Btw, since it’s so easy, what high quality 75 in TV comparable with an lgc2 is guaranteed to work with HDR, vrr, and or even just being detected after a power state change. Should I just buy another $2000 TV to enjoy Linux?
I updated my laptop from Mint 21.3? to 22 and lost all sound. It’s when Mint switched from I think Pulse to Pipewire. The update left behind a random config file that stopped my sound device from being set up, and the only place I could find a fix was on an obscure forum post.
Hibernation and hybrid sleep are both supported by my laptop, and can be set up to work on Mint with a lot of configuration through the terminal. When I reboot though, they stop working again. The related options disappear from the power settings, but work from the terminal.
Pretending that Linux doesn’t have issues is an outright lie at this point
And I’m sure your comparison is done using a Linux-native device, not an originally Windows-specific device you installed Linux on? With power management specifically there’s nothing Linux distros can do to work nicely everywhere, it’s an awful clusterfuck.
The only way to fairly attribute flaws to Linux is to compare a device that waa designed and built for both. Otherwise I could blame, idk, Android for running like shit on my Wii U.
It’s a 9 year old laptop that’s had problems due to software configuration issues. This isn’t cutting edge hardware that’s not supported, it’s an update that didn’t clean up after itself, and a working power setting where the software doesn’t show the available and working options. If I run the hibernate or hybrid sleep commands from the terminal, they work, but the options don’t persist in either the start menu or the power settings gui. That’s nothing to do with it being a Windows device originally.
I like using Linux, and I’m happy using the terminal - I started with DOS, many, many years ago, and the terminal brings back happy memories. Pretending that Linux doesn’t have any problems though is ridiculous.
Fair enough, that indeed sounds like a regression (assuming your old device got officially supported hardware) and a lack of GUI settings. I 100% concur this sucks, both.
I’m still very critical when someone complains that “Linux” doesn’t work properly on a laptop. Most of the time it’s not the fault of any FOSS project, but device manufacturers doing wonky shit that requires device-specific workarounds or license nonsense making support hard to impossible. Especially power management is an issue with newer laptops (which of course doesn’t apply to you) sometimes not even properly supporting e.g. S3 standby because they expect very weird Windows-behaviour (not even standard S0 but some wonky other stuff). I see way, WAY too many “Windows vs. Linux” comparisons on Windows machines that then conclude Linux “not being ready yet” (sometimes even blaming the devs). Meanwhile FOSS developers are being utterly exploited.
Sorry for lashing out a little bit.
No worries, it’s good to know that some people are still passionate :)
Yeah, I get what you mean though. Some people assume that Linux should be able to do everything that Windows or Mac can do, and assume that if it can’t it must be the developer’s fault. You still see the same old bullshit about ‘Linux won’t run Photoshop / my proprietary software!’ without stopping to think that maybe it’s the developer of that software who’s at fault.
It’s been going on for years, and is still infuriating…
Blah blah blah. The world isn’t fair. You don’t get to hand wave away MAJOR issues because they are hard.
“Oh it’ll be ready to switch, just research buy loads of specific equipment next time you buy a computer. I’m SURE you’ll find a nice Dell that’ll be exactly what you need and not a compromise 🙄”
Btw, since it’s so easy, what high quality 75 in TV comparable with an lgc2 is guaranteed to work with HDR, vrr, and or even just being detected after a power state change. Should I just buy another $2000 TV to enjoy Linux?
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Very mature. If you’re going to act like a toddler, I’ll put you in the timeout box.
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Fucking make a reinstall every once in a while. Migration hell is still true. So my comment is heavily biased cause migration is for noobs.
Do you want to call a few friends to help you move those goalposts?