guys plz just install linux, we only play 5 year old games

      • PhireFloofski@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 day ago

        I’m using Valve Index, slime vr trackers and a giggletech puck. I guess it’s possible to get all of that to run on Linux but it’s probably going to be a pain to set up.

        • tekino@pawb.social
          1·
          20 hours ago

          I have an index (but not slimevr/giggletech) and didn’t have issues other than the overlay was buggy when trying to view the desktop. That was a year or so ago though so may have improved.

    • waldfee@feddit.org
      4·
      1 day ago

      That was the reason I installed win11 some time ago, only to realise that wmr would only work on 10, but after updates that wasn’t the case either…, Linux it is then

  • Geodad@lemmy.world
    11·
    2 days ago

    I’m the only computer user in my house. My son is starting to show interest, but only because of Minecraft, which also runs on Linux.

    • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.de
      1·
      3 hours ago

      My son was convinced to use Linux by wobbly windows.

      Although he does have a second SSD now with Windows to be able to play the big popular multiplayer game of the day with his friends. But they are back on Minecraft often enough.

    • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev
      8·
      1 day ago

      Just tossing this out there, if your son hasn’t seen it yet, show him Portal. I showed it to my son when he was starting to get into computers and its still one of his favorites in college.

    • Siegfried@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 day ago

      I don’t know if this still holds but, my experience is that minecraft works arguably better on linux

        • festnt@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          10 hours ago

          honestly, bedrock is just a cash grab game so i don’t even care about not having it in linux. and if i really wanna play with people who don’t have PCs, i can install one mod on the server and they can join and play perfectly

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 days ago

      You can show him the wonders of 3rd party FOSS linux minecraft launchers like polymc.

      You can also be a good parent and not introduce him to a modded gaming addiction.

      This is like the trolley prolem all over again.

      • festnt@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        10 hours ago

        the owner/lead dev/github project creator of polymc kinda went crazy a while ago and put some malware or something on the launcher so most of the dev team got an older, unadulterated version of the launcher and created prismlauncher, which is up until now, the best launcher i’ve used. also, if you have flatpak it’s really easy to find and install.

        and ehhh performance mods are basically necessary to run minecraft smoothly, so i’d really recommend the simply optimized modpack, which is the same as vanilla but has the best optimization mods (or the fabulously optimized modpack, which is basically the same thing but has some quality of life mods thrown in too)

        • festnt@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          10 hours ago

          cat button has been there since multimc, but prism has some different cats! (and the possibility to get cat packs, maning you can put whatever you want there!)

  • FuckFascism@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 days ago

    Is there a good way to figure out what games do and don’t work on Linux beyond just playing them? I use steam.

    • untorquer@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 day ago

      My understanding is the biggest issue is kernel level anti-cheat. I’ve never had a game fail to play well for me, but i also don’t play stuff like battlefield or destiny or FIFA or whatever.

      Worst bug I’ve had is War Thunder having a 5-second freeze at the start of ground realistic battles. But that’s just bad support for the Linux client.

      Other issues I’ve seen the most is forcing dedicated GPU (run parameters fix, e.g. DRI_PRIME=XXX) and connectivity with indie games on steam which is usually fixed with changing proton version, ensuring dedicated gpu, etc.

      In the end, Finnish Cottage Simulator runs with proton 9.4 and that’s the only game you will ever need.

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip
      2·
      24 hours ago

      Is there a good way to figure out what games do and don’t work on Linux beyond just playing them?

      I finally bought a SteamDeck to address this. Now I just use the “SteamDeck Verified” badge on Steam.

      It is worth adding that I have found Valve to be very conservative with giving out “playable” and “verified” bages. (I have had to wait for a Nintendo Switch game to get a required emergency patch more times than I have had any issue with a “SteamDeck Verified” game on SteamDeck.)

      With “Playable” your mileage may vary. A large number of “SteamDeck Playable” games would be fine on Linux Desktop, but are awkward on the SteamDeck smaller screen and need a hunch of controller mapping done.

      But I happily play many games on my SteamDeck that are only badged as “playable”.

      I guess my recommendation is what I did:

      1. buy a SteamDeck
      2. Try various games I care about on the SteamDeck
      3. Satisfied, throw out my last copy of Windows
      4. Mostly forget that desktop gaming is a thing, because I’m busy and my SteamDeck let’s me play on the go and from my recliner.
      5. …?..
      6. Declare this the year of the Linux Desktop Gaming to my friends.
    • Corelli_III@midwest.socialOP
      7·
      2 days ago

      really the only thing that gives us trouble on linux these days are brand new AAA’s where the publisher is sometimes Linux-hostile or occasionally certain E-sports

      if you run a John Deere tractor or a Cricut you might have to learn Docker

        • neketos851@sopuli.xyz
          1·
          8 hours ago

          goodness i 4got about mindustry

          and lato’s adventure too but as of now tried to search for it and it feels like it never was, tgough i do reckon it existing

  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    9·
    2 days ago

    Sadly I had to install Windows 10 iot ltsc on a laptop I own.

    I tried to install linux. Several distros. But I always ran into de same issue. I was unable to install nvidia drivers. Which was weird, because that laptop have been on linux a few years prior and I clearly recall installing nvidia drivers without any issues.

    So I dug into the problem. And it seems that some new linux kernel had issues with older nvidia drivers, so most, if not all, distros dropped support for that old driver. Only given solution was to run some old lts distro. But por instance mint lts will end on 2027.

    At the same time everything worked just fine on that version of windows that have support until 2032.

    And, not, the laptop is not that usable with nouveau drivers, as those are incapable of doing hardware acceleration, so everything runs slower, specially games, but it can be noticed even in just the DE.

    So it’s weird. That in order to keep old hardware around I need to use Windows, because linux dropped support for this particular older hardware earlier than windows.

    I know it’s just an exception, and that is mostly Nvidia’s fault. But I had to do what I had to do.

    Still running linux on other of my machines though.

    • hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org
      3·
      1 day ago

      Is there no option to use the igpu? Or you need the dgpu for some reason?

      You can run a new distro with an old kernel, I used to do that with slackware. you can get similar 10 year support (after kernel.org lts ends) for the kernel if you take it from rhel/rocky linux

      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        4·
        1 day ago

        It is, same as nouveau drivers. But with a loss in performance, because not gpu hardware acceleration.

        The computer runs and linux with nouveau will be its final destiny. But as for now there are some games I play that are just on the edge that run very well with hardware acceleration but sluggish with igpu or nouveau.

        I will have to look into the new distro/old kernel thing. It may be a solution.

    • lost_faith@lemmy.ca
      5·
      2 days ago

      Oh dam, I just watched a vid yesterday about the different distros “Every Linux Distro Explained in 13 minutes” (obviously very very superficial) I’ll see if I can find it in my history and post a link to it for you. there were at least 1 or 2 for “really old” hardware. I will change the name to a link when I get to my pc

      Edit: added link

    • kieron115@startrek.websiteEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      How old are we talking? The nvidia open-source drivers dropped support for everything prior to the 20-series i think? but the closed-source nvidia drivers still support older cards.

      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        3·
        1 day ago

        2013 I think. It’s a 710M laptop gpu. The needed driver is the 390 something like that. Both fedora and ubuntu based distro had dropped support for it. I tried manual installation but indeed it failed because it doesn’t seems to play nice with the kernel.

      • f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        I run a GTX 980 Ti; Maxwell architecture is still supported for three years. Older than that: Kepler support ended last year and Fermi support ended in 2023, and they won’t play nice with kernels released since then.

      • wolfrasin@lemmy.today
        2·
        1 day ago

        Every month or so the windows 10 install hijacks my bios (dual boot) and sets itself to the first boot option so it can try for updates.

        Hisssssssss

      • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
        2·
        2 days ago

        My Linux install and Windows install were on different drives and Windows still managed to fuck my windows install by messing up the secure boot enrollment somehow when I did updates. I wasn’t able to fix it and had to completly reinstall Linux. I turned secure boot off so it shouldn’t happen again but still… that happened.

        • x4740N@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 day ago

          I dual boot and haven’t had an issue like that, yes I know I’m not everyone

          Also isn’t secure boot enrollment easy to fix just be re-enroling through commands

          I’m familiar with Linux having commands for it and I think Windows has its equivalent commands as well

          I’m familiar with re-enrolling secure boot because of fixing a broken akmods on my fedora install and years ago before dual booting when I was back on Windows I accidentally fucked up secureboot

          • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
            1·
            1 day ago

            Also isn’t secure boot enrollment easy to fix just be re-enroling through commands

            Apparently not. I know how to do it but it didn’t work. I spent 2 days troubleshooting and asking for help on their discord but got nowhere.

        • Owl@mander.xyz
          1·
          1 day ago

          New low for microsoft it seems

          Never happened to me but I’ll becareful and maybe move my windows install to an external ssd