We got him this time, folks!
We should give him a one-way ticket to Montego Bay, where they keep all the Al Qaeda.
That was illegal.
There will be no consequences, and we won’t stop you from doing it again, repeatedly, but shame on you.
— Courts of the US injustice system
They could go a step further and convict him of a crime then rule there will be no consequences. Again.
Pretty sure everyone knew and has known that it’s illegal. The problem was never the legality, the problem has always been that nobody’s going to stop him. And so it is with all of the other illegal things the administration’s done so far and will do
This is also the largest issue with the ability of the populace to stop him. The military and militarized police are with him. They could have refused this order, as they’re sworn to do, but they didn’t. Maybe the lower level enlisted didn’t have the knowledge of the order’s legality, but the NCOs and officers commanding them certainly did. They are class traitors and present as a monumental obstacle to the rest of us.
Marines and military personnel in general are class traitors. They may lack the class consciousness to know it, but the act of signing up is traitorous to the working class around the world.
It’s the Miller plan from day one: ignore law, push to SCOTUS, and get those bitches to legalize it.
And since it’s illegal, they’re going to prevent him from deploying them to Chicago like he just said he was going to, right? …right?
Trump tags SCOTUS
SCOTUS: No.
My favourite is the statement from Battle Suit Barbie that LA just wouldn’t be there anymore because of some immigration protests, so they should be thankful Trump sent in the guard. You know, that same guard that did nothing and mostly sat around on their hands in cramped spaces without adequate food or services. What a joke of a country.
scar face barbie
More extensive context and analysis from Calm Matters.
It doesn’t sound like the National Guard members are facing individual penalties for following illegal orders.
Now that it has been determined that the deployment was illegal, any that obey in the future should face penalties.
You would think all charges would be dismissed against civilians
It doesn’t sound like the National Guard members are facing individual penalties for following illegal orders.
This is unfortunate. But I guess with fascists “just following orders” is par for the course.
The order itself was not illegal at the time.
ummm, this judge just ruled it was illegal - the order violated the Posse Comitatus act. There was no “rebellion” at the time of the order, therefore it was illegal, and those following the illegal orders should be penalized.
Illegal orders don’t just become illegal after a judge rules that they were…
I’m not sure you understand at all how things work. Until it is deemed illegal by the courts, it is a legal order for military service members. Defying a legal order is grounds for punishment. Most active service members rely on their pay and benefits, so making a moral stamd on a questionable order isn’t likely.
So what happens now? Does Trump get a fine or something? Not asking to be an ass, I actually don’t know what the repercussions of this is (I bet it will be nothing)
I would assume he would get impeached for it as that is how you punish a president for acting illegally. Unfortunately there are those pesky republican collaborators in congress.
True but he got impeached twice already and … nothing really happened with that
Well the same collaborators don’t bring it through to conviction and penalties.
The judge might tut tut at him or he’ll get a sternly worded letter, but I don’t really see him suffering consequences for this (though I would really like to be wrong!)
Him? No. But I think this opens up avenues for civil suits which the settlements from are then paid by the government which is funded by the taxpayers… fuck.
State governors will have another thing to point to (besides the obvious) to try and block him next time he does it.
I haven’t seen Trumps response but I have a feeling it was similar to my grandfather’s when the nurse in his retirement home told him to stop shitting on the common area couch when he’s watching war movies.
What response? He ded
Oh really…there goes another individual in the unemployment line.
It just gets me how a country with what…over 200mil in population could only come up with Donald or Hillary or Joe just to name a few…nobody what’s the job or what…?
There is a giant bar on the door for anyone not already in the political elite or those circles to keep them from getting in. They are all trash. The Dems had the perfect counter to Trump in Bernie Sanders and the establishment pulled the rug out from under him to nominate Hillary. Against the wishes of the masses. Not that Hillary isn’t a capable leader, she is more than qualified, but people were done with the same old elitist shit and she was just another representation of that. Bernie is far from perfect, but he is actually there to help people, all of them, not just his friends. Trump vs Sanders debates would have been off the hook!
Great, and now what?
Chief Dementia Patient: And?
No teeth
Well, the government does not care about legal anymore. This would only be of consequence if it had … consequences.
If there’s no consequences it’s not illegal.
