Canada too.
yup… eblows down, bottoms up
I don’t think Canada has much of a choice. Have you seen what it looks like on a map.
We have an ice free sea port to the Pacific, and ones in the Atlantic.
America is an extremely natural trading partner, an overwhelming military threat, and right next door to all of Canada’s major cities.
They, more than any other country, need to walk a tightrope.
They don’t. Not really.
America is nothing economically without its trading partners. And that goes for every country, not just the US.
Accepting what the US does is a stupid idea on any country’s part because Trump’s tariffs have nothing to do with “normal trading”. If anything, they’re abnormal.
And they should be treated as such. Laughed off. Ridiculed. And most certantly not appeased. This entire situation isn’t unlike the Hitler Sudetenland stuff.
Whatever Mr. President says Mr. President gets. Not really a good foreign policy move. It was percisely the US who set up penalties for countries “restricting trade”. Why should other countries not hold the US to the rules?
Both import and export tariffs are barriers to trade. Since Mr President’s childish demands are appeased, soon enough, those countries appeasing will start “reciprocal” tariffs on Mr President’s percieved enemies. Why? Because it’s Mr President’s next logical step.
Now, short of all countries that decided on appeasig the US make a sharp U-turn, what’s done is done.
But, should they decide on such a course of action, they’d isolate America on the world market, which would dissuade Trump from keeping his mercantilism up.
The alternstive is isolating themselves from others, together with America.
The eurolibs/NAFO shits don’t seem to like this one
There was a large influx of Euro-nationalists around the time of some Reddit controversy, alongside the “Buy European” movement. Not that I disagree with anti-US Empire sentiment, that’s the correct take, but tons of Euro-nationalists seem to think they are immune to the ills of capitalism and are totally disengaged from the western imperialist hegemony. Seems that’s why there’s such strong support for NATO on Lemmy, despite everyone more or less being anti-US (with some notable exceptions).
Well put insert the “A symbol of western imperialism and capitalism but I like it” meme
lmao, true
I mean, China is bad. At least according to the Chinese.
Which ones?
According to the most recent report (2024), people in China have overwhelmingly positive views of their political system. 92% of people say that democracy is important to them, 79% say that their country is democratic, 91% say that the government serves the interests of most people (rather than a small group), and 85% say all people have equal rights before the law. Furthermore, China outperforms the US and most European countries on these indicators – in fact, it has some of the strongest results in the world. The figure below compares China’s results to those from the US, France and Britain. These results may help explain the high levels of satisfaction with government reported by the Ash Center.
Thanks for the graph! Happy to see that. I’m very willing to investigate my perception of China. What China-critical sources do you consider credible? What arguments would convince you that China is a bad place?
My personal experiences are from the scientific community, where those who come from China are extremely critical of it, in a great part due to extreme surveillance, low individual freedom and low respect for human rights. But that’s just anecdotal.
My immediate (better sourced) concerns would be the Uyghurs, who don’t seem to enjoy being Chinese , the five million people working under modern slavery, the people of occupied Tibet, and generally anyone who doesn’t speak, dress or behave the way the state thinks they should.
I consider those credible sources, but I’d be happy to reconsider that if you have any good reasons to doubt them.
My argument is that while possibly lots of people in China think it’s a good place and are happy with the overall direction, lots of other people in China are being treated with a terrifying brutality that is impossible to justify if you believe in the values of universal human welfare and dignity.
[don’t laugh]
I hate china because of the goverment surveillance and censorship.
Surveillance isn’t outside the norm for western countries, and is focused more heavily on businesses than on random civilians. As for censorship, it’s mostly a tool to suppress capitalists from using media to undermine the socialist system. Overall, people in the PRC broadly support their system and believe it to be constantly improving, so that’s what truly matters most.
Ukrainism, not even once