My personal experience is that doctors and institutions (ie. hospital, work, university) are just far more friendly towards the dual diagnosis. ASD is treated as, I don’t necessarily accept “disability”, but special circumstances, and is generally well catered for given enough back and forth with the correct departments. And PTSD is quite favourably treated as things that happened to you rather than because of you, which it always feels is kind of the assumption once people hear the BPD diagnosis.
So like, stigmatization even from professionals? Yeah I can see that. It’s absolutely not what I experienced so far, quite the opposite; but I haven’t been to each and every psych ward in my country haha.
Maybe I just didn’t like your phrasing? Because it’s different if you straight up say: The diagnosis and treatment in psychiatry is flawed and still has a long way to go; if you personally suffer from BPD and don’t get the treatment you know you need, get diagnosed with ASD and PTSD to get proper treatment; directly addressing the problems of an established diagnosis and treatment system which is only very sluggishly changing.
edit: if you’re interested in this kind of stuff, search for “OPD-3”, it tries to address the rigidity problem the ICD-10 and DSM-5 have
Okay but what if someone were hurting and we didnt add enough extra hurt and nope and ouch to them? Like didnt really use all our various mavhineries to apply the makinh things worse to the already bad. Wouldn’t that be horrible? How would you tolerate a philosophical or political or social system that failed to even create sufficiently concentrated suffering? If it couldn’t, youd need to add suffering til it did, right?
My personal experience is that doctors and institutions (ie. hospital, work, university) are just far more friendly towards the dual diagnosis. ASD is treated as, I don’t necessarily accept “disability”, but special circumstances, and is generally well catered for given enough back and forth with the correct departments. And PTSD is quite favourably treated as things that happened to you rather than because of you, which it always feels is kind of the assumption once people hear the BPD diagnosis.
So like, stigmatization even from professionals? Yeah I can see that. It’s absolutely not what I experienced so far, quite the opposite; but I haven’t been to each and every psych ward in my country haha.
Maybe I just didn’t like your phrasing? Because it’s different if you straight up say: The diagnosis and treatment in psychiatry is flawed and still has a long way to go; if you personally suffer from BPD and don’t get the treatment you know you need, get diagnosed with ASD and PTSD to get proper treatment; directly addressing the problems of an established diagnosis and treatment system which is only very sluggishly changing.
edit: if you’re interested in this kind of stuff, search for “OPD-3”, it tries to address the rigidity problem the ICD-10 and DSM-5 have
Yes but have you considered that some people who need help are inconvenient and so need to be pujished?
I pujish myself enough tbh
Okay but what if someone were hurting and we didnt add enough extra hurt and nope and ouch to them? Like didnt really use all our various mavhineries to apply the makinh things worse to the already bad. Wouldn’t that be horrible? How would you tolerate a philosophical or political or social system that failed to even create sufficiently concentrated suffering? If it couldn’t, youd need to add suffering til it did, right?