When a fascist talks shit, it’s talking about itself. Literally always.
Also, not sure trump has said that about trans people. Think he’s saving it for the midterms. You’re just saying crap.
how are you different
Blue hair, for one. Very important difference. But stuff that will hit harder for stuffy old intellectual sorts, in case any read this:
I can explain what i mean when i use words and actually consider stuff intellectually, rather than relying on shallow understandings and gut emotional reactions that barely rise past the level of aesthetics and i valorize and absolutely never explore or apply nuance to. My conclusions flow from my observations rather than the other way around. I tend to revel in rather than abhor complexity. Hey…
Also, not sure trump has said that about trans people. Think he’s saving it for the midterms. You’re just saying crap.
Removing DEI, stripping trans service people of their rights and benefits, denying trans people their identity… Yeah, sure, I’m just talking crap.
I can explain what i mean when i use words and actually consider stuff intellectually, rather than relying on shallow understandings and gut emotional reactions that barely rise past the level of aesthetics and i valorize and absolutely never explore or apply nuance to. My conclusions flow from my observations rather than the other way around. I tend to revel in rather than abhor complexity. Hey…
There are fascist intellectuals too. Remember Oppenheimer for example? There were many nazi scientists in nazi Germany. Being a fascist doesn’t automatically mean being dumb or ignorant. It means having a lack of compassion as they don’t care about causing harm to others and they they believe there’s a rank in people, in which they are better than others. Ubermensch and untermensch. They believe some people are more human than others and deserve more rights. Dehumanizing groups of people is usually done to justify crimes against humanity. Murder, torture (like forced medical experimentation like Mengele did), slavery, re-education, sterilization, extermination, etc.
No matter how evil, fucked up, imbicile, hateful or corrupt someone may be, they are still human and should be treated as such. Even if they don’t treat others like that. Because classifying someone or a group as less human is fascism.
I am better than those bad people. I’m a better person. I’m not more human than them.
Look at the world’s history, or what’s happening right now. Humans are fucking evil and fucked up. Some are good, some are bad, but we’re all still human.
Oh absolutely trying to kill trans people, for the base, but does not personally give a shit. Is saving the rhetoric for an election.
fascist intellectuals
There were. There aren’t anymore because it’s a fundamentally anti intellectual movement. Their analyses all amount to a shallow disdain for complexity and contrivance to baffle shitlibs into alliance.
saying someone is less human
Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?
Don’t underestimate your enemy my friend. Just because the ones in the foreground are low IQ screaming idiots doesn’t mean the quiet ones behind the curtains are low IQ too.
It’s not about intellect per se. It’s about empathy. Take a sociopath for example. They can be highly intellectual but their goal will justify any means because they lack any form of it.
I’m not saying intellect has nothing to do with the rise of fascism, because fascists are very good at manipulating low IQ people with disinformation. These low IQ people, the heard, won’t see the harm they do because that would drive their support away so it’s all being hidden and twisted.
But the core of the rise of fascism is definitely planned by intellectual people and you should not underestimate that.
Don’t just look at the skinheads on the street. Look at the people funding fascist tyrants.
Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?
We were talking about dehumanizing people, weren’t we?
…im being kind of an ass now that you are sort of engaging. Sorry about that. Spoiled by the previous bits of the discussion.
But i think there’s another element to this that you’re missing: why does a person start becoming a fascist? Whats the value, internally and discursively, of various models?
Here’s some facts that might seem disconnected. Follow along. Promise it’s going somewhere.
Studies show; brains prone to authorotarian psychology tend to have a much stronger disgust response.
It tends to flow from someone who is absolutely not special in any positive way feeling a need to see themselves as special/heroic/virtuous.
It comes in part from a need to have a prestigious identity while being individually kind of a piece of shit. From needing to see one’s self as good but finding no good in one’s self beyond membership in a group that can be collectively valorized (however dishonestly; the imperative matters, truth does not).
Erasing any potentially positive identity a potential fascist could subsume itself into, driving home that its something you would have your day ruined if ypu stepped in, and pointing how how it’s pitiful disgusting and weak, could potentially save lives. There would still be structural issues to address, of course, but right now we have an immediate problem to solve.
It might even have some preventative value to find people showing early symptoms, when they may still be people, and pinning them down, spraying them with antifungal ‘antifascist’ drugs, via the placebo effect.
No, you said intellectuals. He’s exactly what i described. Please read what i wrote before replying.
there are many others
You couldn’t name one.
IQ
Clown shit
empathy
I have explored that system, stared into that abyss. Im aware of how it works, and it is not, in the ways that matter to me; a person. I can get my ass kicked by the computer in a 30 year old video game. Doesn’t make it a person.
planned by intellectuals
Even uf you stretched the definition to inclhde ghouls like gingrich and bannon; they’re not entirely welcome in those spaces anymore
funders
Yeah they’re rich; not smart. Different. Arguably exclusive.
When a fascist talks shit, it’s talking about itself. Literally always.
Also, not sure trump has said that about trans people. Think he’s saving it for the midterms. You’re just saying crap.
Blue hair, for one. Very important difference. But stuff that will hit harder for stuffy old intellectual sorts, in case any read this:
I can explain what i mean when i use words and actually consider stuff intellectually, rather than relying on shallow understandings and gut emotional reactions that barely rise past the level of aesthetics and i valorize and absolutely never explore or apply nuance to. My conclusions flow from my observations rather than the other way around. I tend to revel in rather than abhor complexity. Hey…
Removing DEI, stripping trans service people of their rights and benefits, denying trans people their identity… Yeah, sure, I’m just talking crap.
There are fascist intellectuals too. Remember Oppenheimer for example? There were many nazi scientists in nazi Germany. Being a fascist doesn’t automatically mean being dumb or ignorant. It means having a lack of compassion as they don’t care about causing harm to others and they they believe there’s a rank in people, in which they are better than others. Ubermensch and untermensch. They believe some people are more human than others and deserve more rights. Dehumanizing groups of people is usually done to justify crimes against humanity. Murder, torture (like forced medical experimentation like Mengele did), slavery, re-education, sterilization, extermination, etc.
No matter how evil, fucked up, imbicile, hateful or corrupt someone may be, they are still human and should be treated as such. Even if they don’t treat others like that. Because classifying someone or a group as less human is fascism.
I am better than those bad people. I’m a better person. I’m not more human than them.
Look at the world’s history, or what’s happening right now. Humans are fucking evil and fucked up. Some are good, some are bad, but we’re all still human.
Oh absolutely trying to kill trans people, for the base, but does not personally give a shit. Is saving the rhetoric for an election.
There were. There aren’t anymore because it’s a fundamentally anti intellectual movement. Their analyses all amount to a shallow disdain for complexity and contrivance to baffle shitlibs into alliance.
Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?
Example: Jordan Peterson.
There are many others.
Don’t underestimate your enemy my friend. Just because the ones in the foreground are low IQ screaming idiots doesn’t mean the quiet ones behind the curtains are low IQ too.
It’s not about intellect per se. It’s about empathy. Take a sociopath for example. They can be highly intellectual but their goal will justify any means because they lack any form of it.
I’m not saying intellect has nothing to do with the rise of fascism, because fascists are very good at manipulating low IQ people with disinformation. These low IQ people, the heard, won’t see the harm they do because that would drive their support away so it’s all being hidden and twisted.
But the core of the rise of fascism is definitely planned by intellectual people and you should not underestimate that.
Don’t just look at the skinheads on the street. Look at the people funding fascist tyrants.
We were talking about dehumanizing people, weren’t we?
…im being kind of an ass now that you are sort of engaging. Sorry about that. Spoiled by the previous bits of the discussion.
But i think there’s another element to this that you’re missing: why does a person start becoming a fascist? Whats the value, internally and discursively, of various models?
Here’s some facts that might seem disconnected. Follow along. Promise it’s going somewhere.
Studies show; brains prone to authorotarian psychology tend to have a much stronger disgust response.
It tends to flow from someone who is absolutely not special in any positive way feeling a need to see themselves as special/heroic/virtuous.
It comes in part from a need to have a prestigious identity while being individually kind of a piece of shit. From needing to see one’s self as good but finding no good in one’s self beyond membership in a group that can be collectively valorized (however dishonestly; the imperative matters, truth does not).
Erasing any potentially positive identity a potential fascist could subsume itself into, driving home that its something you would have your day ruined if ypu stepped in, and pointing how how it’s pitiful disgusting and weak, could potentially save lives. There would still be structural issues to address, of course, but right now we have an immediate problem to solve.
It might even have some preventative value to find people showing early symptoms, when they may still be people, and pinning them down, spraying them with antifungal ‘antifascist’ drugs, via the placebo effect.
No, you said intellectuals. He’s exactly what i described. Please read what i wrote before replying.
You couldn’t name one.
Clown shit
I have explored that system, stared into that abyss. Im aware of how it works, and it is not, in the ways that matter to me; a person. I can get my ass kicked by the computer in a 30 year old video game. Doesn’t make it a person.
Even uf you stretched the definition to inclhde ghouls like gingrich and bannon; they’re not entirely welcome in those spaces anymore
Yeah they’re rich; not smart. Different. Arguably exclusive.
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