cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33487836

By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BST

The New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress’ annual defence spending bill for Israel’s Iron Dome programme.

Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene’s amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.

In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene’s amendment did “nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza”.

    • Omega@lemmy.world
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      12 hours ago

      Literally giving aid to Palestinians or threatening to stop funding Israel is seen as helping the aggressor protect itself from the consequences of their actions. Pretty straightforward. A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified.

      Hamas did some really brutal shit. That doesn’t justify murdering people.

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        Only person here making pro-genocide arguments here is you.

        Fucking both-siding genocidal fuck.

        You’re not clever and it is clear what you are doing.

        Edit: to be absolutely clear: you are pro-grnocide and you’re trying to justify it by sounding anti-genocide. But you, personally, are bad at rheoteric, and it would be clear to a child what you are doing.

        Israel should be their own nation. No money for anything to a country committing genocide.

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          1 hour ago

          Israel should be their own nation. No money for anything to a country committing genocide.

          Agreed

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        11 hours ago

        How does restricting Israel’s defense assets from the United States, which they are perfectly capable of manufacturing on their own, result in murdering people? Is the United States immediately going to strike Israel with missiles?

        The only people claiming that giving Aid to Palestinians is funding terrorists are Israel in the United States everybody else pretty universally agrees they giving Aid the Palestinians is not funding “terrorist” groups. This is an especially stupid example given the fact that Bibi has admitted to funding Isis groups to disrupt Hamas activities as recently as last month.

        a lot of people all see the genocide as 100% Justified.

        Yeah so did the Germans in World War II. That’s a wonderful argument you’re making. 🤦

        So I’m going to predict you’re not going to give me a straight answer because you and I both know what the answer actually is. But let’s try this again so that you can at least try to prove that you’re not just a fool who came in here without any fact to back up your opinion.

        How does removing $500 million of United States tax dollars from the Israeli defense assets endorse genocide, and as a follow-up, justify murder?

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          The real problem is how she handled it. It’s a weak, but coherent, position.

          She’s crashing out over it. She’s responding to genuine criticism with accusations of being fake leftists… It’s not a good look

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          11 hours ago

          I’m not commenting on all the bait. Most of that is you arguing with an imaginary person in your head. Hurting innocent people is bad. Fuck Hamas and IDF. Take from that whatever you want.

          But this is funny.

          Yeah so did the Germans in World War II. That’s a wonderful argument you’re making. 🤦

          It’s like you ALMOST got what I was saying. But you’re so wrapped up in yourself that you missed where I was saying genocide is bad.

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            11 hours ago

            You’re such a coward.

            Couldn’t answer the very simple question of how restricting funding to Israel is endorsing a genocide or justifying murder.

            I was entirely right in my prediction of your response in my last comment. This is an excellent example of a red herring fallacy and a great way to try and avoid answering the above question.

            A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified

            This yours? 🙄

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              11 hours ago

              I never said it did. There’s your answer.

              This yours? 🙄

              Like I said, you missed literally the only point I was making. And you’re not interested in changing that.

              Keep being angry at nothing.

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                11 hours ago

                Would you mind reading the username there?

                Wow. Eptiome of honor here. I bow to your “holy” presence.

                Definitely not a cowardly intellectually dishonest sophist.

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                    11 hours ago

                    Still not an answer to the question. One that you posed.

                    I see you’re dodging your own quotation.

                    A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified

                    Who cares how much support there is for a genocide? why even bring that up? I’m 100% sure you won’t answer this either.

                    Do you think all consequences of aggressors are justified?

                    I think imposing any consequences on the aggressors of a genocide would be a good start.