cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33487836
By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BSTThe New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress’ annual defence spending bill for Israel’s Iron Dome programme.
Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene’s amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.
In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene’s amendment did “nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza”.
How does restricting Israel’s defense assets from the United States, which they are perfectly capable of manufacturing on their own, result in murdering people? Is the United States immediately going to strike Israel with missiles?
The only people claiming that giving Aid to Palestinians is funding terrorists are Israel in the United States everybody else pretty universally agrees they giving Aid the Palestinians is not funding “terrorist” groups. This is an especially stupid example given the fact that Bibi has admitted to funding Isis groups to disrupt Hamas activities as recently as last month.
Yeah so did the Germans in World War II. That’s a wonderful argument you’re making. 🤦
So I’m going to predict you’re not going to give me a straight answer because you and I both know what the answer actually is. But let’s try this again so that you can at least try to prove that you’re not just a fool who came in here without any fact to back up your opinion.
How does removing $500 million of United States tax dollars from the Israeli defense assets endorse genocide, and as a follow-up, justify murder?
The real problem is how she handled it. It’s a weak, but coherent, position.
She’s crashing out over it. She’s responding to genuine criticism with accusations of being fake leftists… It’s not a good look
I’m not commenting on all the bait. Most of that is you arguing with an imaginary person in your head. Hurting innocent people is bad. Fuck Hamas and IDF. Take from that whatever you want.
But this is funny.
It’s like you ALMOST got what I was saying. But you’re so wrapped up in yourself that you missed where I was saying genocide is bad.
You’re such a coward.
Couldn’t answer the very simple question of how restricting funding to Israel is endorsing a genocide or justifying murder.
I was entirely right in my prediction of your response in my last comment. This is an excellent example of a red herring fallacy and a great way to try and avoid answering the above question.
This yours? 🙄
I never said it did. There’s your answer.
Like I said, you missed literally the only point I was making. And you’re not interested in changing that.
Keep being angry at nothing.
Would you mind reading the username there?
Wow. Eptiome of honor here. I bow to your “holy” presence.
Definitely not a cowardly intellectually dishonest sophist.
Do you think all consequences of aggressors are justified?
Still not an answer to the question. One that you posed.
I see you’re dodging your own quotation.
Who cares how much support there is for a genocide? why even bring that up? I’m 100% sure you won’t answer this either.
I think imposing any consequences on the aggressors of a genocide would be a good start.
I care. I don’t want any support for genocide. Because then you get genocide.
Do you think all consequences for the aggressor are justified?
The obvious and moral position is that nobody should support genocide.
Which is why I don’t care who supports genocide. If you support any form of genocide your opinion automatically is worthless to me.
Who cares who supports genocide? Those people can be instantly discounted.
Your question is inane. Answer my previous question if you want an answer to this. You have yet to answer anything I’ve posited. It’s an interesting technique to impose your own question and demand an answer when you have answered none.