Andrew Cuomo and Bill Clinton both have a lengthy list of sexual misconduct allegations against them. But as long as they’re politically useful, top Democrats don’t seem to care.
Huh. There’s an exception to Betteridge’s Law.
In what sense is anyone saying Bill Clinton is politically useful?
This is the sort of thing that makes me feel more sympathy for the Democratic party. The party simply can’t win with the left.
The party leadership worked against Sanders candidacy because they are convinced a liberal can’t win in America. I don’t agree, but recognize with Nixon and Reagan dominating over leftist candidates, Carter ekeing out a win as a centrist, Clinton winning convincingly as a centrist, and Obama winning as a rather vague candidate, recent history has given limited reason think a leftist national candidate is a safe bet.
But if voters are supporting Cuomo and the party doesn’t intervene the party is the wrong for not ignoring the will of the voters and tanking his candidacy.
I mean I get it. The left wants their candidates to win, but the lack of consistency is grating. It makes the centrist seem more sensible.
The party simply can’t win with the left.
The party can’t win against anyone. It looks a lot like the DNC might have chosen to take a dive in this election.
2016, 2020, 2024: bernie would have steamrolled trump. But the dems can’t have an outsider - even one who’s better at articulating their party goals and values - so here we are.
Or look at Al Franken who got pushed out over nothing. Your examples are cherry picked. Plus, wasn’t Cuomo forced out?
And the Clinton case is ambiguous. Quite a few of the allegations were low-effort Republican fabrications that got laughed out of court. Cuomo, on the other hand, total scumbag. No ambiguity there.
Yes, Cuomo was forced out, but he is attempting a comeback by running for Mayor of NYC against Eric Adams. Aren’t there any non-shitty Democrats in the city who want that job?
Non-shitty people see what happens when they go up against shitty people.
The party protects the shitty.
If someone wants to be a politician that’s a disqualifying factor to being a politician. So yes he’s a fucking shitbag. People who want to improve our lives would rather do anything than politics because that’s just theatre for self absorbed sociopaths
That you, Plato?
Yeah, it seems like there’s one party actually holding greater than 60% of their bad actors accountable and another one rewarding bad behavior… But, sure, let’s complain about how 60% is not enough instead of dealing with the reality we find ourselves in.
The bar for Democrats is perfection. There is no bar for Republicans.
Welcome to lemmy.
Boring
Like many people of a certain age, I feel like I owe Monica Lewinsky an apology.
Linda Tripp should apologize to her from Hell.
Me too. I said truly awful things about her when she was so young and he was one of the world’s most powerful men
Can we please stop eating our own while the goddamn house is on fire? We’re gonna need them for the bucket brigade.
- step 1 put out the fire
- step 2 eat the mfers who set the house ablaze
- step 3 eat the rich
- step 4 tend to our own dirty laundry
And this is how abusive men get their protection.
Palestinian-americans, the undocumented, trans people, and now abuse victims. Who’s next under the bus?
Anyone but white men for Democrats.
It hasn’t escaped my notice that the Congressional Black Caucus has a large percentage of the few elected representatives who actually have backbones.
Exactly. We got the most prolific traitor in American history dismantling America on behalf of the worst tyrant on the planet, with the help of enthusiastic Nazis, and we’re supposed to be more concerned with what our guys are doing with their wieners? If they aren’t raping children like Republicans, then put it aside and start making plans to drag the miserable traitors to their well-earned punishments.
Lol. When you put Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo and every other horrendous caricature of evil in the democratic party as “our own”, you’ve doomed yourself to losing in perpetuity.
Your mistake in this is thinking the Democrats are “your own”. You need to clean house before you can take on outside enemies.
right? idk why people keep thinking politicians are on their side.
This is precisely the same line of thinking that helped get the fire elected to the White House.
It’s death by a thousand cuts.
Not everyone who doesn’t align with you 100% is your enemy.
Not everyone who doesn’t align with you 100% is your enemy.
Trump is the enemy and anyone who appeases him is an enabler. That’s not about 100% alignment, it’s a fundamental matter of principle.
Not everyone who doesn’t align with you 100% is your enemy.
Last time centrists got a candidate they didn’t align with 100%, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected. Ever since then, the giant hypocrites have been lecturing everyone to vote blue no matter who.
But someone who only aligns with you 20% is not your friend.
This is precisely the same line of thinking that helped get the fire elected to the White House.
This isn’t a “line of thinking”; it’s just how things are. The Democrats are not your friends, they will not defend you and you can’t count on them. If that sounds like the reason Trump won, then great, because that literally is the reason Trump won and if you want to avoid a repeat of 2024 you’ll have to do something other than repeat 2024. Abusive relationship logic doesn’t get voters.
Why do you assume all Democrats are trying to put out the fire? Schumer and 10 Senate Democrats just sold out the rest of the party and handed Trump a huge victory. We need to look at every single Democrat and make sure their buckets are full of water instead of gasoline before we decide to work with them.
I agree. They lost to trump AGAIN. He’s so divisive they should have been able to win at least once.
They did win against Trump once.
They lost to trump AGAIN
They surrendered.
Well for one, I think Schumer made a mistake here and if I lived in NY I’d be calling him up to tell him just that.
But I can see his logic as to why he went the way he did. He fears a govt shutdown is only going to let the foxes eat more of the henhouse.
I think the public would have forgave the dems and I think a shutdown would have helped raise things to the fever pitch needed to suck all of the oxygen out of the room up there. Time will tell I guess.
If you want to make sure they’re carrying water, then we gotta be the reservoir. You gotta add your drop to the bucket and I gotta add mine. That starts by calling, funding the causes you believe in, and then getting out in the streets and being real loud.
It’s a hostage situation, he just paid ransom, and they still hold the hostages. Fuck the whole Inside Baseball mentality. Fight back or get out of the way.
Even if what you’re saying about Schumer is true, it would still be gross incompetence to achieve this goal in the manner that he did. Even if you believe his whole, “Musk wants a shutdown,” argument, he allowed every single House Democrat, even those in vulnerable seats, to put themselves in a vulnerable position by refusing to fund the government, then threw them all under the bus by saying, “actually, funding the government is just too important.” Why would he damage his own party like that?
Let’s be real here; the stock market has been tanking all week because of the tariffs, it would have gotten even worse with a shutdown, and Schumer takes a shitload of money from Wall Street. The day before the vote, his donors started telling him how important they think funding the government is, he caves, and the stock market makes a decent comeback the next day. He sold out his party to the donors, and gave Trump a huge win in the process.
Of course they will. The Democratic Party’s only bedrock ideological stance is preserving neoliberal capitalism. All of their other supposed policy positions are merely fundraising slogans. If you feel compelled to downvote this comment because you rightfully want to mount an opposition to the fascist Republicans, please consider how ineffective Democrats have been in that effort for 40 years and start reforming the party. If you need help, it starts with actual standards and policies.
Something else to consider is that we may already be past the time when competitive electoral politics are possible. By 2026, Republicans may have it so rigged that other means will be the only way to change things for the better.
Yeah. I’m not a realist by any means — if anything, I’m a constructivist and I think we can do better — but power exists. It may make me vomit in my own mouth and want to become a realist and sock someone but we can do better.
It’s like that Jesus guy said: washing hoes feet will get you to Heaven. (I don’t think he said those exact words but you know Mary Magdalene’s feet were clean and smelling fresh. Anointed with fragrances and oils and everything. Jesus loved feet.)
tarantino is Jesus confirmed
Don’t mess with the Jesus, man.
i dont think theres evidence of mary magdalene being a prostitute, i believe this misunderstanding came about due to mistranslations of ‘young woman’ or ‘unmarried woman’ or somthing.
Yeah, it didn’t really get big until the Middle Ages.
