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  • No I’m not spreading apathy and I support the communist party of Russia as well as the economic development of Asia. Please stop doing the fucking Adam Curtis monologue about how Putin is psychically poisoning society it’s so overdone and irrelevant. Your country has a problem with Russia because it has nationalized its oil supply and other resources, and is contributing to a trade and monetary system that is increasingly independent of the dollar. If Russia stayed in full post-USSR collapse Yeltsin policy mode and refused to develop at all there would be no issue and Germany would take the cheap energy, but that’s just not really possible since the country is one of the few geographically capable of autarky.

    This isn’t a pissing match between countries this is about neocolonialism and Germany’s leadership is fighting for its place within that system rather than integrating based on geography and resources. Stop repeating the same old con to me. Russia isn’t a great power or Sauron to real development economists. It’s just got the kind of backbone Europe and the US have repeatedly bombed out of Middle East and African nations, and just failed to bomb out of Iran. Germany cannot have that backbone until you give up being one of porky’s favorite little slaves.

    Hope this helps


  • No not Russia, do you even know any other countries? It’s China. If you can’t even read + only understand the most rigid statements, I’m not going to bother.

    Germany cannot do any of the things you are proposing because it is not even politicians who make these decisions, it is investors, who will put their money wherever it is most profitable. Fundamentally this is different from a nation which has capital controls, industrial planning, and is not reliant on energy & manufacturing inputs from lower-income countries. This is why we are seeing industry in the highly financialized core countries decline: it’s more profitable for investors, who are increasing labor costs by charging workers in these countries as much as possible for housing, goods, and essential services. To talk of a concerted effort to make more solar panels or missiles domestically under this political system is just entertainment. A haphazard thought experiment



  • We’re talking about the industrial capacity required for a green revolution, though! Aside from energy prices, that requires maintaining a stable talent pool of engineers, many different kinds of skilled workers! Just massacring the whole gas car industry isn’t even a good idea for that sake. We’re working from completely different premises. You’re just fitting anything to this Russia bad narrative you possibly can and you have zero interest in the structure of the neocolonial financial system that keeps the German ruling class in sync with the US in the first place. I should come back with a more serious post that lays out the parameters of this whole discussion instead of having you recite every conspiracy theory you can concoct, this is probably the fifth essay I’ve given an IOU for so at this point though so no promises.

    You can’t decry a recession caused by evil Russian spies and then turn around and say the things which are contributing to that recession are good. Using your measure of recession is fraudulent anyways since western economists count everything from rent increases to stocks to legal fees to German hookers as GDP and it isn’t a realistic figure for industry or the livelihoods of actual workers



  • You have failed at every level of basic research here lmao Russia was German’s largest provider of all kinds of fossil fuel sources, and what country do you guess is the second largest? Trying to downplay the US as being “only the largest provider of energy” when the prior one had been bringing in three times as much. I mean let’s just not talk about prices at all right? Once we get into prices this is going to be a very bad look for you.

    It would quite literally be in Russia’s best interest to have bilateral economic agreements with Germany increasing industrial capacity, geographically these neighboring regions have immense possibilities in rail transit networks for tourism and trade, and this whole division between them suits only Wall St, Brussels, London etc, it’s not in the national interest of Germany at all but the ruling class interest. So I hope that pretending evil spies and not the entire political and business leadership of Germany sold out the green revolution helps you sleep at night. Don’t forget to keep the heat down this winter could be even pricier. That’s not the issue - not being able to make cars and solar panels competitively is the issue


  • Notice how you count the percentage of natural gas which the US provides, but not the half of natural gas that it was getting from Europe. Russia doesn’t have any hand in you destroying your entire industrial capacity because the US told you to. Yes, in this situation losing even 6% of your energy will be crushing because you haven’t yet diversified your energy sources by lowering costs significantly (again industry, which is dependent on labor and energy prices). Cutting out nuclear has made this all even more devastating



  • demand halves

    Stop, I’m going to do a spit take. Look, I would love for Europe to go full solarpunk but that would take sudden growth of industrial capacity beyond its wildest dreams, not maximizing certain tech monopolies and rent seeking in industry. Europe has hitched itself to the US because their dependency relationship (encompassing both US influence and European participation in supply chains mediated by US power, requiring access to undercosted goods from poorer nations) is too important to European political & business leadership to consider industrial development. It’s playing a bad long game because elites can always run somewhere else & they have nothing to do but inherit and die. That’s really the main obstacle here, politics. It feels bad when I hear these common sense solutions combined with neolib premises and jingoism lol, Europe will pass off restrictions on Chinese solar panels, EVs, etc as being sound industrial policy, and you won’t see production increase there or prices drop. Look I may jokingly taunt Euros but it’s almost like you deserve better. Rhetorically you deserve better maybe not karmically


  • Lol of course you think it’s Russian infiltration that’s preventing you from taking advantage of solar and wind & not the US, which just got you utterly dependent on its natural gas shipments by increasing the cost of the Russian oil Europe still buys through secondary countries (oil is incredibly easy to launder as it is just grades of hydrocarbons lmfao)

    Maybe you should consider what political forces in Europe are aligned against the chief producer of solar and wind technology (China) and whether they were createf by the Russian infiltration your ruling class orders you to attribute all of your problems to (you dutifully comply)


  • To compare the energy sovereignty issue, this is like believing the US can actually drill enough to become independent from OPEC countries. (Wouldn’t be alone, this was a popular talking point when the call to Drill Baby Drill was sounded!) The whole point of US drilling is to control the oil market. Actually this is a bad example because the US runs the petrodollar system but no Drill Baby Drill and OPEC cannot save Europe now. Opening up to Russia, China, and Iran and going full Asia mode could. The drilling in Norway and Canada you’re talking about is a price management thing. Oil wells that have more limited stores also become far less efficient to extract the more you pump. To say nothing of crap like tar sands lol


  • Well you should know from your experience with cutting out Russian oil that a gigantic & cheaper source is not easily replaced! If you think industry there is recovering from that blow to energy prices already you should talk to some pro-Europe people who study this more in-depth, because they’re not happy about it.

    All I can say is that Europe doing that would be a huge win for us Asia development fanatics. You’d be handing us your own head on a plate. It’s politically impossible anyways, European access to lucrative trade and finance has all been mediated with US oversight that places them near the top of the food chain. The ruling class the US made rich is not going to bite the hand that feeds them, and Europe isn’t going to depose of its oligarchy overnight. We can dream though