disrupt supply chains? Sure. Kill innocent civilians? Honestly, probably I would want them to kill whoever to save me, but I’d know that I was morally wrong, if not outright evil.

The mass violence experienced by the Palestinians has been horrific. The October 7th attack was barbaric. Prior actions in recent times by Israel helped pave the way for that attack. Ditto for Hamas. There certainly are and were evil persons among Hamas. Likewise, there are evil people in Israel in high places.

I want to tell myself that there’s no way in hell they would let this happen, let alone make it happen.

Then I remember it’s the DNC.

To be honest, this is just a signal that she probably wouldn’t have been a good leader. Better than Trump, sure, but that bar is so low it’s a tripping hazard.

She should have told Biden to pound sand after locking up the nomination.

But we should verify the claim before passing judgement.

“They are the people with influence in the governments committing genocides.”

And the civilians who are actually targeted are not the ones who can influence governments.

And the attacks on the boats are not going to cause much damage to the billionaires. If the attacks reach the point that the billionaires are going to be hurt, the USA military will step in.

The people actually shouldering must of the impact are innocent civilians, primarily from developing countries, who actually main the boats.

We are the heroes of our own stories but, and I am sorry if this is rude, it’s straight up gross that you’re here trying to justify attacking neutral, innocent, largely unarmed, and financially constrained civilians.

I really hope you can arrive at the point where you can look back on this and realize how messed up this position is.

Yeah, and it’s a shame that people, especially from developing countries, are forced into these situations due to economic realities.

Stop mentioning the billionaires. They are not important in this conversation. They are not on the the ships, and the only impact these events have on them is pushing up insurance prices and other costs but even that is a drop in the bucket.

And stop acting like you’re some sort of hero. Given your position, I highly doubt you actually care any more about these workers then then billionaires. Both you and them seem to be looking at 'em as disposable.

What does any of that have to do with with the workers on the boats? Most of whom come from developing countries and are just trying to feed their families?

Astounding.

yeah, robin hood wasn’t out attacking innocent people.

We’re all the heroes in our own story but you’re sitting here trying to defend attacking innocent civilians. I hope some day you’re able to realize how messed up that is.

Did Robin Hood go out and pepper innocent people with arrows? Was that the moral of the story?

Most ship crew members come from neutral developing countries, such as the Philippines. Maybe their lives don’t mean much to you, but they mean a lot to me. Sorry, I’m never going to condone attacking innocent civilians.

well, I dunno, maybe not blockade?

I mean, literally, if only. Not the dude you’re arguing with. Am another dude.

Sure we can dream up other ways to live, and we collectively could achieve them. But for many, many people it’s simply not possible right now

ehhh… fuck it, let’s earn some downvotes.

I’m really not going to lose sleep over a group that intentionally targets civilian ships staffed, with you know, innocent civilians.

Trump sucks. But Iran’s upper leadership also sucks, and they’re funding this.

Punishment as deterrent is often pretty questionable, but this is a case where I think it could help. Any business owners who ignore things like fire safety regulations should face substantial sentences IMO.

I’d go as far as to say any business owner found to be blatantly violating serious safety regulations during an inspection should face a few days in jal.