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  • nednobbins@lemm.eetoA Comm for Historymemes@lemmy.worldImmersion-breaking
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    6 days ago

    I’ll take a stab at it but I don’t remember that movie well so I had to re-watch the clip.

    I’ll start by reiterating that the above stuff is generalizations. Some authors ignore them and some intentionally break them. I thin Kingsmen falls into the latter category.

    The movie is full of class shibboleths and makes a point of dissociating etiquette from kindness or morality.

    To start with, it’s rude of Valentine to offer McCdonalds. There’s an expectation of generosity towards guests and McDonalds certainly doesn’t meet that expectation in that sort of setting.

    Sir Galahad’s response is that of a perfect guest. He doesn’t argue with his host or call him out. Instead he accepts what is offered and humbly supports Valentines implication that it’s the height of epicurean delight.

    The larger context is to set up a contrast between Valentine and Eggsy. While booth violate high-class etiquette rules, Valentine does it out of aggression and selfishness and Eggsy does it to save the world.



  • There are a lot of interesting discussions around the use of food in movies. Even ones that aren’t directly about food.

    Regular food intake is critical for our survival so it makes sense that it takes a large social role.

    As a general rule, making and sharing food is considered “good”.

    • “Everybody eats when they come to my house.” - Cab Calloway
    • “You can get anything you want, at Alice’s restaurant.” - Arlo Guthrie

    Taking and consuming food is “bad”.

    • “Get in my belly!” - Fat Bastard
    • “Mind if I have some of your tasty beverage to wash this down with?” - Jules

    The exception is when food is offered. In that case, graciously accepting the food is also good.

    • ET and Sloth (from Goonies) accept the candy.

  • German in US movies has a wild array of quality levels.

    The best ones are all from native German speaking actors. Movie actors don’t need native proficiency since the script is written out for them. The accents are really hard to nail down though and native speakers often have some regional dialect that second language learners almost never pick up.

    Mac Steinmeir nails it in Saving Private Ryan and he’s Bavarian. Christopher Walz speaks flawless German. His French and Italian sound perfect to me but native speakers consider him “pretty good for a foreigner”. He’s Austrian.

    Christian Slater has a very clear accent in Heathers but he’s not supposed to be a native German speaker.