He literally was just some guy.

On one hand, to Europe they were just some guy. True.

On the other, they were the co-founder and CEO of a political influencer operation so influential that the US President and their party are doing all this crap to honor them. Kirk is responsible for radicalizing many people into real violence.

I don’t think many anti-capitalists suggest abolishing currency entirely.

Why don’t you think that? You’re right that abolishing currency isn’t implied by abolishing capitalism, but plenty of anti-capitalists advocate for eventually abolishing money in any form (I assume that’s what you mean by abolishing currency, although there are other interpretations), and some others advocate to abolish it as soon as possible (I believe, although I can’t prove right now, that many intentional communities/communes have done this).

Communism’s long-term aim is ultimately to create a communist society. That is, a public, stateless, classless, moneyless society - goods are distributed by need rather than for wealth.

We don’t want people filling swimming pools with cheese and diving into it.

I actually had to check to make sure some e-celeb hadn’t done this stunt for content. I don’t think currency is what stops people from doing that, just like how for-profit healthcare systems aren’t what’s keeping people from injuring themselves.

The term of the day is: Artificial scarcity

Worrying about any kind of surveillance is pointless if you dont leave your ph9ne at home every day.

It’s not quite as simple as that. The overall point has truth, but one can still use a phone and reduce surveillance, especially if you’re just trying to avoid surveillance capitalism or police surveillance at certain times (e.g. protests). Privacy isn’t binary. Security isn’t binary.

No spoilers and punchlines in the title pls!

You should unironically read Mein Kampf though, at least once

The funny thing about that book is if you tell a neo-Nazi you’ve read it and have a criticism, they’ll immediately ask which translation and claim most of them are a “Jewish trick”.

Olivier Mannoni, who translated the 2021 French critical edition, said about the original German text that it was “An incoherent soup, one could become half-mad translating it”, and said that previous translations had corrected the language, giving the false impression that Hitler was a “cultured man” with “coherent and grammatically correct reasoning”. He added “To me, making this text elegant is a crime.” [snip]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Criticism_by_translators

So hopefully Lemmy doesn’t catch on so will that those folks come here in force, too. For now at least, it’s much better.

At the very least, I suspect Lemmy, as a federated network, has more power to filter them. We saw years ago what happened when the Wolfballs bigots tried to join, they were eventually isolated by most other instances who continued to run without them. So as long as we can retain a situation where the largest instances actually take a solid stance against assholes and trolls and bigots, then it becomes much easier to make them all optional, shunned to register on the more liberalist permissive instances.

(historically, the equation generally doesn’t change when there are more guns or bullets)

Reminder that multiple co-authors denounced the book when they saw how ludicrous the other sections were, such as tallying millions of Nazi soldiers as victims of communism.

https://xcancel.com/VoCommunism/status/1747646935429677554

Officially US the good ones which won Nazi Germany, despite that is was Rusia and the allied, the US only enter when almost everything was done

The Soviet Union (and I say that to emphasize that it was not simply Russia) and other Allies also played an important role in the Pacific Theatre too once they had some breathing space. I suppose the US glorify it so aggressively because it’s one of the few major wars they were on the winning side of, but when they rapidly promoted former Nazis to high political positions and launched Operation Gladio, one can’t help but realize their troops were only sent there to stop those Nazis, not Nazism.

How easily the US’s friends are forgotten… [1][2]

“Eyes left” moment

That’s nothing. If you’re going to bring up the US and their tanks, here’s how they behave with them

Community rule 1.

Seems like the average user on here is smart enough not to get caught up in that bullshit thankfully.

I wonder if it’s still early enough to give people taps on the shoulder - “don’t feed the trolls, friend”.

I’ve never understood the mindset that this social site is made up of a different mix of personalities than any other. It’s not.

On the other hand, this is often the case in small communities. Most Lemmy instances are general-purpose or large enough to have a typical mix, but I have been to a few sites which will moderate away any hostility whatsoever, and that does make the site unusable for some personalities. These kind of sites have rules like “No politics. No insults. No drama.” Toxicity isn’t inevitable, there’s nothing forcing community staff to tolerate mean people or mean outbursts, but it does take a mixture of design decisions and careful micromanagement which most communities, and especially most large sites, don’t bother with.

edit: and on the flipside, there are also communities where toxicity is expected and it’s amazing to see someone acting nice there, it might even be done as a trolling method.

That’s one of the benefits of having a forum small enough to have a community. Troublemakers stick out like a sore thumb.

It’s not only about many people here being technical, of course you’re right that it plays a big part, and it’s also that the Fediverse is a rejection of for-profit, closed social media, so there’s a HUGE crossover between its users and the FOSS community (including Linux users) who really take strong issue to many things about Windows (and Mac) that Windows users consider to be normal. And with Lemmy especially, the initial userbase was largely anti-capitalists, since Reddit was banning many of their subreddits and was exploiting their users for profit with ads, blocking third-party apps, and bending to the demands of media companies and their owners. So plenty of people here are political about software.

Enough folks drank the coolaid,

You say that like the UK all sat down in a room and most of the country said “please censor me”.

with the only way to fully dismantle them would be to shutoff all access to the Internet

I don’t think this is true. It’s a bit complicated because there are ways to obfuscate the traffic, but generally speaking, I’d assume governments could track and block nodes just as easily as you can find them.

Tor is slow

It might trip you up for real-time things like gaming and you might take a while to download HUGE files, but it’s much faster than its historical reputation

and has a reputation of being used by pedophiles and drug traffickers

This is true for any privacy software. Encrypted chats, cryptographic currency, darknets. Even the internet itself has that reputation. Anyone trying to hide what they’re doing is likely to seek privacy tools. Reputation means nothing.