Formerly /u/Zagorath on the alien site.

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  • not every Western country was on the same side of WW2, and not all of them had the fighting happen in their territory, which means not all of them were levelled. And not all of them were Marshall planned after.

    This isn’t actually relevant to my point. They didn’t have the same experience as other Boomers (or whichever generation) in other countries, but did have a notably different experience from Xers (or whatever) in their own country. Because it may not have been in identical ways, but yes, every western country was affected by WWII in some ways. Even those like my own that never saw conflict at home. So the experience of being born in the immediate aftermath of the war is a handy generation-defining experience, even if what that experience translates into is different for a German compared to a Brit, or to an Australian.

    Of course, it’s also fair to say that there’s a much bigger difference between a German born in 1946 and one born in 1963 than there is between two Germans born in 1963 and 1965, even though one case has two “boomers” and the other a boomer and gen X. And in either case, the experience of someone in West Berlin is probably extremely different from someone from Hamburg, from someone born in the small town of Deesdorf. And for someone born to wealthy parents or poor. Generations help categorise, and the rough boundaries we use are roughly useful, but that’s a lot of rough.



  • You’re a little younger than me (young millennial), and a little older than my sister (old Z). And yeah, there’s definitely a fuzzy border. We grew up with technology, which sounds like a gen Z experience, but that technology was not pervasive and everywhere, it was more like appointment viewing. We had the experience of really noticing the technology improving, which is more millennial. I relate to some of the typical millennial children’s shows, like early Pokemon, Batman TOS, X-Men, and I’m familiar with many more even if I didn’t like them myself (like Rugrats, Hey Arthur, Doug). But the shows that made up more of my core viewing are a little too recent to be called millennial, like Avatar, Kim Possible, and Lilo & Stich the series.

    Also, while you had a millennial parent, I did not. Heck, I didn’t even have gen X parents. My old folks are both younger boomers. Which I’m sure introduces its own variable to the equation.


  • I don’t think the names are particularly relevant, but the idea that people born in those years have done shared experience notably different from other times is—to the extent it can ever be true for any specified dates (which is a very low extent)—fairly consistent across at least western countries and their colonies.




  • It’s a sparsely-populated country. We actually only use 4. 02 for NSW and the ACT, 03 for Victoria and Tasmania, 07 for Queensland, and 08 for SA, WA, and the NT.

    There are then a further 2 digits (or 1 digit for the most populous areas) used for more fine-grained regions, like 073 for Brisbane and 0747 for Townsville. But at least when I was young, those digits would be part of the phone number you would memorise and type, even for other people in the same subregion. I’m not sure if they were compulsory or not. So my phone number as a child was 3XXX XXXX. If I had been on NSW trying to reach that, it wouldn’t have worked, and I’d have needed to know that it’s 07 3XXX XXXX. And internationally it would be 617 3XXX XXXX.



  • At least on my part, you guess correctly.

    A billion being 109 is, at this point, universal. To my knowledge, only the very old in the UK still hold to the “long billion”.

    I find that fascinating, because everywhere I’ve lived (and everywhere I haven’t lived but have had reason to be aware of the phone scheme), mobile phone numbers (which often aren’t formatted in the same way as landline numbers) are 10 digits and start with a leading zero.

    Growing up, landlines usually didn’t include area code, and would be 8 digits, starting with a non-zero number. But adding an area code would mean adding 2 digits, the first of which is always 0.

    So basically, if I see a phone number without a leading zero, I’m going to be very confused, unless I have reason to believe that it includes country code.



  • When I was growing up we didn’t use the area code, so the phone number I still have burned into my brain despite it not having been active for nearly 20 years was 8 digits, beginning with 3. Area codes, if we had used them, would have added two digits, the first of which is always 0 in Australia.

    That’s landlines. Mobile phones were only just starting to become popular when I first moved overseas as a kid. They’re always 10 digits, and always start with 04. In both landlines and mobiles, you drop the leading 0 if you’re going to add the country code.

    In Korea, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Austria, mobile phone numbers without a country code have a leading zero. If there’s somewhere that doesn’t do this, I suspect they are an outlier.




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    What are you even trying to say here? Yeah, in real-life use we use “close enough”. I don’t need to know that it’s 1,546 metres to the nearest supermarket. 1.5 km is close enough.

    But nobody is suggesting it because it’s “so accurate”. Any system can be accurate, depending on how many sig figs you use. The advantage of metric is on how easy it is to convert between different scales. Use millimetres, metres, or kilometres for the appropriate case, depending on the need you have for precision. And just move the decimal point if you decide you don’t need as much precision…or need more. In archaic measurements, you can’t do that. If you’ve got 342 feet and decide you actually only need to be accurate to the chain, you have to memorise the arbitrary number of 3 feet to a yard, and 22 yards to a chain, and divide 342 by those numbers, to arrive at 5.2 chains.