“no, land back does not mean ethnic cleansing”

I didn’t suggest ethnic cleansing in the meaning of land back, nor does land back suggest ethnic cleansing. ONE of the scenarios of land back means you (as in the settler populus) would have to start pack up your stuff and leave, if this is what the Indigenous would want with their land reclaimed, then it’s not up to you or me.

This is of course highly, highly unlikely and as others and I have mentioned in other threads, the Indigenous majority would actually realistically want people to stay, most probably including you (idk, I’m not a USian, never mind a Native American), if this is what you’re worried about.

If I was a USian, I’d thank my lucky stars that they’d be this kind and HAVE BEEN despite them sustaining centuries of one of, if not the most brutal ethnic cleansing, land desecration and genocide, which is still ongoing to this day.

@Nakoichi@hexbear.net that was actually to me. But even then, assuming I’m not already engaging in real-life activism to downplay the point I was making isn’t really a valid criticism of the point, but ig looking at other threads you seem to get that by now so it’s w/e really.

Realistically and logistically speaking, if they were ever to retrieve their land back, the Native Americans would probably be MORE accepting of the idea to live amongst the working class that don’t originate from their land rather than “evicting” the population, basic infrastructure (that’s already replaced native tribes’ land) would need maintenance, first of all.

The fact that it scares them that this highly unlikely scenario of reclaiming land then the Indigenous do whatever they want with it is very poetic. The fact that they’ve probably also imagined dramatically violent scenarios of this is also funny, funny strange.

Less than half an hour later, the finders keepers rule I talked about elsewhere in this thread gets invoked.

it’s almost like the most thought-terminating cliches absolutely HAVE to be said and mentioned in the slightest available opportunity 🤣

Pretty much this, you read my mind here.

“Ah but you see, a long time has passed by! There’s generations [of settler-colonialists] that have already lived through these times, and the people of today have nothing to do with their past!”

Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous’ is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.

They’re going to say the exact same shit for Palestine if it’s allowed to be festered long enough by settler-colonialists, as if it already hasn’t been festered.

Name one part of the meme that is factually wrong, anglo-offshoot-from-europe and believer in electoralism and partisanship.

can Spike just do that but for all libs in general?

i wonder if there were any restaurants from within the former USSR countries that took the following Western “civilized detectables” as inspiration:

who am I kidding, there weren’t and probably aren’t any lol

Am I supposed to know where “my country” is? Whatever, doesn’t matter, we now learn that you don’t really consider Palestinians humans, so good talk.

Why do redditors read the first sentence, somehow completely take away the wrong information from the first sentence and then proceed to ignore the rest of the comment as they refuse to elaborate their position?

For starters, every single member has diplomatic ties with the settler-colonial entity. Two things that are explicitly clear here:

1. This does not only equate to “past recognition”. Diplomatic ties entail cooperation and a relationship between two states that facilitiates, among other things, trade and transport agreements and citizen travel between the two states. This is diplomacy 101. That said, it should not be hard to understand why having diplomatic ties to a settler-colonial entity counts as support for the genocide of the Palestinians.

2. This is not the only point being made here. This is why I prefaced with “For starters”. The fact of the matter is every NATO member does indeed provide material support to the vermin psycho-“state” full of grown men posing to the camera wearing clothes of the children and women they murder/violate.

Also, NATO ties to the entity is PERTINENT to the point that NATO members and NATO itself provides material support to the entity to slaughter Palestinians. It’s not hard to understand from the excerpt what “30 years of cooperation on domains such as science and technology, counter-terrorism” etc… means. I just provided proof that material support from NATO was and is still happening, straight from NATO.

Instead of engaging in deeply unserious one-note retorts that only serve to prove your lack of comprehension skills and insane mental gymnastics, point out which member state does not contribute to the baby-and-women-murdering sex offender haven “state”.

1. it is not true that every single county does that

For starters, every single member has diplomatic ties with the settler-colonial entity (save for Turkey’s intermittent “severing ties” posturing), that alone is substantial material support. Now, I’m not going to list every single notable contribution to the settler-colonial entity for each member state in that organization, so please point out which member state does not contribute to the baby-and-women-murdering sex offender haven “state”.

2. the ones that do, do it as individual states

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_211209.htm

NATO and Israel have worked together for almost 30 years, cooperating in domains such as science and technology, counter terrorism, civil preparedness, countering weapons of mass destruction and women, peace and security. Over the last year cooperation has grown, with NATO welcoming Israel’s intention to strengthen the naval interoperability by recognising Israel as a partner for NATO’s Operation Sea Guardian, and Israel’s Defence Force military medical academy now serving as a unique asset for NATO’s Partnership Training and Education Centres community.

And even if that was somehow true, which it isn’t, it still doesn’t change the fact that every single country in that T-word organization provides material support.

every single country in that T-word organization (I leave figuring out what the “T” word is as an exercise for the reader) provides material support, whether directly or indirectly, to the settler-colonial entity.

From the “civilizing missions” of the British, French and the Dutch to the theft, plundering, pillaging and desecration of indigenous lands and its people in the “New World”, with all of it mirrored today only this time with different targets, it’s clear as fuck that a majority of today’s US’ white population do not stray far from their European colonialist ancestors and don’t want to…

Maybe I’m doomposting but I genuinely don’t know how this vicious cycle of white supremacist entities scratching each other’s backs and evolving in the process of doing so could end…

this just captures the angry white man in not just the US, but also KKKommonwealth and Europe.

What makes up the majority of the nationalities of the settler-colonialists in occupied Palestine, and how much money + from which continent (aside from North America) goes into the settler-colonial entity?

Awesome, who the hell raised you and which one of the NATO states do you belong to that disperses the HUGE spoils of their imperialism for your benefit?

Murdered children, women and unarmed men across the fucking planet didn’t have A choice, ANY choice in the matter especially considering that they were already struggling under unending sanctions, occupation, wars, genocide, or a combination of all of the previous. You thoughtless motherfuckers pretend like you’re perpetual victims when you WILLINGLY volunteer to steal the lives of entire family lines, or help others do so, just so you and only you yourself can have a shot at life.

Ghoul.

That’s too much work, and an uphill battle that they’d rather wage against women, children and unarmed men. Murdering Arabs and Muslims and reinforcing the idea that they don’t deserve college or healthcare for the crime of being born on the “wrong country” and only they do sounded a lot more attractive and more fun for this ghoul.

You can tell that they knew exactly what they were getting into, and even if they didn’t, that would still not be an excuse.

Next, they and the other imperial loving devils will try to plead for you to “consider being nuanced”.

How does equating two European ethno-supremacist entities and their horrible crimes downplay what happened in the Holocaust?

Arguably the latter lunatic European ethno-supremacist cancer entity plaguing West Asia is worse, but there are way too many similarities between the two to dismiss the idea of equating the two.

the spectre is back to haunt the libs :o