When you have hope in the voting system there’s less motivation to educate yourself about history and current events. “We know what the problems are: let’s just vote them away!” You need to be motivated to educate yourself because it’s much easier to accept dominant narratives than to admit how little you know on any given subject.

On the flip side, abandoning electoralism requires an independence of thought that lends itself toward questioning other narratives. Once you realize you’ve been fooled before, it’s obvious that you likely hold other beliefs that don’t align with reality. At this point, you have ample motivation. Personally, this is when I began reading leftist theory. It’s easier to question the system after you’ve been disillusioned.

The unfortunate thing about the internet is all the people who agree with this sentiment are scattered across the globe. You’d have to do flyers in your local community or something

Always has been

And the FBI, killed Martin Luther King!

At that point you need a government to set rules, and law enforcement to enforce those rules.

In a communist society where we have abolished wages and everyone has their needs guaranteed, why would anyone harm the community by flouting norms regarding the commons? This paints us as naturally immoral creatures that will always need Father Government to protect us from ourselves. Arguably, people are such social creatures that strong norms and taboos would keep most (all?) of us in check (again, in the context of a communist society).

Well said. To give some more examples of communal societies:

• The Mbuti hunter-gatherers of the Ituri Forest in central Africa.

• The gift-giving economy of the Semai in Malaya.

• Numerous indigenous societies in NA that practice communal land ownership (Lakota/Dakota/the Cherokee, etc.).

• Millions who shared resources in the villages of Europe:

  • Arable land was often divided into plots for local families to farm (e.g., the English open field system, - Scandinavian Solskifte [“Sun Division”] system, the Irish “Rundale” system, etc.).
  • Grazing lands and forests were often shared by the community (e.g., in Scandinavia, Spain, France).

People who argue that we need capitalism to save us from ourselves don’t understand human nature.

Additionally, we have managed pastures, woods, and fisheries for thousands of years without government intervention. The so-called tragedy is solved by community members (checks notes) talking about how to preserve the resources required for their survival.

great name btw OP

I thought you were joking but Wikipedia really does say that…

What about the U.K.?