They paid in cash per TFA

So do you expect self driving tech to override human action? or do you expect human action to override self driving tech?

I expect the human to override the system, not the other way around. Nobody claims to have a system that requires no human input, aside from limited and experimental implementations that are not road legal nationwide. I kind of expect human input to override the robot given the fear of robots making mistakes despite the humans behind them getting into them drunk and holding down the throttle until they turn motorcyclists into red mist. But that’s my assumption.

With the boca one specifically, the guy got in his car inebriated. That was the first mistake that caused the problem that should never have happened. If the car was truly self driving automated and had no user input, this wouldn’t have happened. It wouldn’t have gone nearly 2.5x the speed limit. It would have braked long in advance before hitting someone in the road.

I have a ninja 650. We all know the danger comes from things we cannot control, such as others. I’d trust an actually automated car over a human driver always, even with limited modern tech. The second the user gets an input though? zero trust.

FTFA:

Certain Tesla self-driving technologies are speed capped, but others are not. Simply pressing the accelerator will raise your speed in certain modes, and as we saw in the police filings from the Washington State case, pressing the accelerator also cancels emergency braking.

That’s how you would strike a motorcyclist at such extreme speed, simply press the accelerator and all other inputs are apparently overridden.

If the guy smashes the gas, just like in cruise control I would not expect the vehicle to stop itself.

The guy admitted to being intoxicted and held the gas down… what’s the self driving contribution to that?

Did I ask a terrible question, or do you just not like anything being objective about the issue? I’m so far over on the left side ideologically that you’d be hard pressed finding an issue that i’m conservative on. I don’t fit the dem mold though, i’m more of a bernie… though I am very critical in general. I don’t just take things at face value. Anywho…

Saying that the statistics aren’t great just lends credence to the fact that we can’t objectively determine how safe or unsafe anything is without good data.

Let’s get this out of the way: Felon Musk is a nazi asshole.

Anyway, It should be criminal to do these comparisons without showing human drivers statistics for reference. I’m so sick of articles that leave out hard data. Show me deaths per billion miles driven for tesla, competitors, and humans.

Then there’s shit like the boca raton crash, where they mention the car going 100 in a 45 and killing a motorcyclist, and then go on to say the only way to do that is to physically use the gas pedal and that it disables emergency breaking. Is it really a self driving car at that point when a user must actively engage to disable portions of the automation? If you take an action to override stopping, it’s not self driving. Stopping is a key function of how self driving tech self drives. It’s not like the car swerved to another lane and nailed someone, the driver literally did this.

Bottom line I look at the media around self driving tech as sensationalist. Danger drives clicks. Felon Musk is a nazi asshole, but self driving tech isn’t made by the guy. it’s made by engineers. I wouldn’t buy a tesla unless he has no stake in the business, but I do believe people are far more dangerous behind the wheel in basically all typical driving scenarios.

It’s because the wealthy run things, and the victim was wealthy.

Game, set and match.

cause meet effect

I can’t believe investors were OK with him selling twitter to another company he co-owns.

Sounds like a small claims court case or something. Abhorrent.

Yeah, you guys made a lot of mistakes. How about you take your thumbs out of your asses, say fuck it to partisanship, and vote your fucking conscious instead of just rubber stamping what your cheeto tells you to do.

If you all stand up to the guy all his power is gone. He only has power over your party because you all give it to him. The nation is only dysfunctional because you just carte blanch vote down anything that isn’t created and edited by your party even if it’s the best thing for your constituents.

in my experience the credit unions I am eligible for are no better than commercial banks.

The best credit unions are highly restricted to a small population with a common association. They aren’t made for the masses.

lol you can’t turn off overdraft protection. I fucking tried. They wouldn’t let me do it.

I am not using a major national bank, just a local/regional one from my hometown.

I think the fair comparison would be humans that drive legally.

Humans don’t drive legally. I don’t believe for a second there is a human on this planet who has never violated a rule of the road. The easy default is that we all speed.

Who hasn’t done a rolling stop at a stop sign? Taken a turn they legally shouldn’t have? (No U turns? lol) Taken a right on red when it says not to but there’s literally nobody around?

Cell phones are mostly illegal everywhere while driving and if you look around almost everyone is staring at them.

This mythical person who never, ever does anything against the rules is impossible.

I wholeheartedly agree with electing young people to drain the swamp that is the state of US politics.

After what happened to bernie and then now what is going on right now it should be clear that the house and senate are not doing their jobs. They should be the ones creating laws, not the executive branch.

You’ll notice that I didn’t call out a particular party. I think it should be a bipartisan effort. Maybe we’d finally get the younger generations to vote if they could relate to the people in office.

I hate felon musk but I honestly believe their self driving tech is safer than humans.

Have you seen the average human? They’re beyond dumb. If they’re in cars it’s like the majority of htem are just staring at their cell phones.

I don’t think self driving tech works in all circumstances, but I bet it is already much better than humans at most driving, especially highway driving.

now replace chatgpt with these terms, one by one:

• the internet
• google
• facebook
• instagram
• tiktok
• reddit
• lemmy
• their cell phone
• news media
• television
• radio
• podcasts
• junk food
• money

They already decided what they’re gonna do about being caught using signal exclusively for communications:

Nothing.

Any republican party member who stands up for this will be threatened with having their seat put up to a primary challenge. This is just a fact.

Remember, whatever the administration says can only be interpreted by fact by anyone who is part of the party. If you aren’t in line you aren’t in the party.

The undesirables will be shipped off to a camp far from the public’s eye and shaven, beaten and humiliated.

Reddit didn’t grow in it’s early days like it does today. To use an analogy for what you’re saying: think of a snowball rolling down a mountain and turning into an avalanche. It’s easy to forget that the snowball started it.

We don’t really have a choice, unfortunately.

This platform has the downside of day 1 bots, unlike reddit of yore.

Don’t worry, the enshittification of both is proceeding well.

Replacements are inevitable in time. This one is growing.