The Norwegian Nobel Committee has awarded its 2025 Peace Prize to the leader of Venezuela’s far-right opposition, Maria Corina Machado, an event that is as significant as it is sinister.
The award was announced on October 9 in Oslo, Norway, a country whose wealth, strategic role in NATO, and large military investments position it as a bulwark for imperialist interests in Europe and beyond.
The award provides a glaring demonstration of the hypocrisy of capitalist public opinion as it is marshaled behind another catastrophic imperialist intervention in Latin America.
There is nothing unprecedented about bestowing the peace prize upon far-right or blood-drenched figures. If “political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize,” as American songwriter, satirist and mathematician Tom Lehrer quipped in 1973, the award to Machado hammers another nail into its coffin.
In the years in between, the prize went to mass murderers and war criminals such as Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, the former Irgun terrorist responsible for the Sabra and Shatila massacres in Lebanon, and Aung San Suu Kyi, whose government was responsible for genocidal violence against Myanmar’s Rohingya minority. Barack Obama received the award in 2009, on the eve of launching a major military surge in Afghanistan and as his government was unleashing a wave of drone assassinations. Then as now, the prize served not as a reward to peacemakers, but as a tool for anointing those favored by imperialism and to legitimize war.
No, it is fair to call disgusting tankies roaches and degenerates.
There is no ideology involved. “North Korea is a great place to live and is a vanguard against imperialism” is not a serious statement.
We both know that the vast majority of tankies are bored teenagers and malicious demagogues. Don’t play dumb with me.
The tankie source does support russian genocidal imperialism.
You don’t even speak Ukrainian or russian and have never lived here. You’re in no position to talk about “deep misunderstanding”.
Thanks for proving my point.
Like, lol. But alright, let’s go, I bite.
No sane person would confirm, that it’s “fair” to use dehumanizing language. That statement only shows how far off the rails you are. But alright, what’s a tankie for you? I asked in the past, you didn’t answer. Every russian? People that support a socialist agenda? You use that as a blanket statement, as a degoratory generalisation against people that do not support your hate-fueled diarrhea. And the hate comes through in the form of dehumanising hate speech. Thanks for affirming that.
Okay sure, so you do not think that North Korea does exist in a constant struggle against capitalist takeover? Sure, that’s an acceptable take. But why do you have to make things up and generalise, again, to then throw that fantasy take as a blanket over every “tankie”? I’m sure, there might once has been some person that might have said that, but what does that prove about anyone else, other than that person? You do realise this is disingenuous and dumb, right?
I reject every part of that take - you seem to be living in oppositve-world. It’s driven by your ideological hate towards leftist thought. Do you ever leave your flat? Why do you keep generalising towards your degoratory use of the word “tankie”, only to excuse yourself to dehumanise people?
Without yapping, prove their support for “russian genocidal imperialism”, and while doing that, please also prove the “genocidal” part. And I mean support, you know what the word means, right? Again, not just some kind of position that’s not in line with your hope and dreams for your national purity.
“The pattern shows that accusations of supporting ‘Russian genocidal imperialism’ primarily come from centrist liberals, NATO supporters, and establishment political figures who use these extreme characterizations to delegitimize any leftist critique of Western foreign policy, regardless of whether those leftists actually support Russian actions or simply advocate for diplomatic solutions and criticism of all imperial powers.” Some AI summary, because I can’t be bothered to do more for you.
*no position You excluding my opinion based on nationality or language (without actually knowing which languages I speak) is an immature ad hominem, a clear sign of your nationalist character and also displays your lack of understanding socialist or communist thought. Are you claiming, that “tankies” are always russian or that every socialist is a tankie? What you say doesnt even make any sense. What’s with socialist Ukrainians, are they tankie cockroaches, too? So, do I either have to be a tankie or an enemy of a tankie to actually understand either take and formulate an opinion on them? You do have opinions on Palestine and Israel, I’ve seen. But you’re neither. You see the problem?
You’re full of shit and you are a hateful nationalist. Get fucked.
Fuck tankies and their defenders.
Not reading mental spew from retards defending fascists.
Why hello, my confused, stereotypical American friend. I’m sure life’s hard over there in the imperial core, so let me suggest some light reading to you, while you wait for the complete authoritarian take-over from the right, while you keep whining about the left:
Blackshirts and Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism by Michael Parenti An accessible exploration of the differences between fascism and communism, addressing why Western societies often conflate the two, and how capitalist interests have portrayed socialist movements as “red fascists.” Especially readable for American audiences looking for a critical but not apologetic take on “tankies” and authoritarianism.
The Authoritarian Specter by Bob Altemeyer A highly readable introduction to the psychology of authoritarianism, focusing especially on how these tendencies can arise in ordinary Americans — not just extremists or “the other side.” Explains why people across the spectrum endorse authoritarian politics.
Or my I suggest a pretty good video, getting into the basics: Micheal Parenti’s Lecture from 1986
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You know exactly what a tankie is, don’t play dumb.
I will most definitely call out idiots who roleplay as communists online and don’t speak any other languages. No one is buying your bullshit about “Ukrainian socialists”. The communists party of Ukraine was a russian proxy force. Genuine Ukrainian socialists (or anyone for that matter) would want nothing to do with some online roleplayers who come up with degenerate statements such “North Korea is the vanguard against imperialism!” and support russian genocidal imperialism.
I don’t play.
And I will most definitely call out Nazis who roleplay as victims online and don’t speak other languages.
I know what the term “tankie” actually means and also how right-wingers use it to discredit anything opposing their little völkisch fantasies. I asked you specifically, how you define it, because you throw it around everywhere and you make that outgroup (them, the others) out to be responsible for all the bad things in your world. So much so, that you end up yapping like a lunatic two seconds before stroking out.
Which you are, a little Ukrainian nationalist lunatic with a hate for everything slightly pointing towards anything associated with your Russian neighbour, … like the endangerment of the Ukrainian national identity. But sadly, that’s all you’ve got, it’s everything that defines you as a person.
But the reality is, the Ukrainians are forced to kill their Russian brothers and sisters and the Russians are forced to kill their Ukrainian brothers and sisters. You are the same, working class people. You are not fighting for your country or your Ukrainian blood, you are being consumed by the capitalist, imperialist war machine. You fucking idiot, snap out of it, the enemy is not at the other end of the field.
You delegitimise leftist thought by claiming they’d only be roleplaying. Conveniently, when you do that, you have a basis to then go on to tell us, that they are just lying and are evil for deceiving us like that. And since they’re evil, they’re roaches and need to be exterminated. Convenient thought process. Interestingly, they’re so clever to deceive us, but also so very deranged, huh.
You are a dumb Nazi, the sooner you realise that, the sooner you can heal.
Step 1: Don’t be a Nazi.
Step 2: Punch up, not sideways or down.
lol why are you victim blaming ukraine?
Nice one, stalker. Please, show me the part where I do that and explain to me, how that’s victim blaming.
Also, you are coming to the defense of the guy you reluctantly banned for, let me check, five whole days from your little nazi bar for repeately using dehumanizing hate speech, only after weeks during which you did not act on it, although you were confronted with it several times. You are the Bartender of a nazi bar, gj.
you tend to call everyone you don’t like as a nazi.
You failed to elaborate on the victim blaming thing you just mentioned.
Also, I only called Skiluros a nazi, do you have problems with reading comprehension? You are merely a bartender — but do you identify as a nazi?
so he’s a nazi for dehumanising language? which mind you is not allowed on my community, hence his ban
Now… why would that be? :´)
Sure, he be mad. But his national identity is all he’s got, it’s how he defines himself, how he gets his self worth. Normal people don’t screech around the internet, how everyone are cockroaches and degenerates, if they only so much as try to formulate an opinion other than ‘Slava Ukraina’. That’s still hate speech.
We don’t tolerate this shit with Russians, nor Palestinians, sometimes we do with Israelis, but sane people don’t.
You don’t need to tolerate or excuse national extremism, to show support and solidarity with the people being forced to fight and die in a war.
I think their nationalism is a response to lemmy users showing a lack of solidarity with Ukrainian people being forced to fight and die in a war of Imperial agression. For example if that war is called ‘complicated’ or an ‘NATO proxy war’.
If that would be the case, then I’d suggest to them to lay down the phone, go outside and touch some grass.
Their nationalism emerging through lemmy commentary is what I would call a hot take.
They’re not forced to engage in political discussion on the internet, that they have trouble to process emotionally and they are also not forced to participate in hate-based communities, neither are they forced to use hate speech in general.
This user is notoriously using hate speech and counterfactual fabrications. I appreciate you trying to explain their behavior in an effort to show solidarity with what the Ukrainian people are enduring, but I’d also caution you, not to find excuses for right-wing extremists.
Typical tankie world salad.
At least come with some new copytext! You think I haven’t seen this gibberish before?
Everyone I don’t like is a Nazi!
It is reasonable to call an individual who lectures Ukrainians (without knowing Ukrainian or ever having lived here) that “you are brothers with the russians” a degenerate roach.
Your attitude shows that you lack humanity.
Your attitude shows the lack of solidarity with your equals and the lack of actual humanity by consistently using dehumanizing language.
Nah man, not everyone, you specifically.
If you keep being confronted with these kinds of accusations, maybe stop and wonder: Why does this keep happening? And no, it’s not because the people that bring forth those accusations are degenerate roaches.
The real irony is we both know tankies regularly use the term roaches and call for death over the stupidest things (with fantasies about killing posters with ice picks).
Some degenerates claiming that “everything I don’t like is a BIA conspiracy!!!” are not my (are anyone’s) equals.
No, we do not both know that. I don’t even know why you yap about Serbia‘s security information agency. You‘re in fantasy land again.
Prove to me that this is what “tankies” say, like in a way that shows „that‘s representative of tankies“, because you are the one accusing a whole group, that you deem to be a roaches. You can’t, because you make this shit up. Liar.
But either way, that also would never excuse your own hate speech. You don’t even reject me labeling you a Nazi or fascist, because you’re proud of it, but you are also a freaking coward, without the courage to openly say it, because it would get you in trouble. Coward.
You also failed to prove that these journalists are “supporting Russian genocidal imperialism”, but you do repeatedly delegitimize and dehumanize journalists that don’t follow your narrative. You know who does that? Facsists do.